Eriwar
12-13-2010, 11:30 PM
Too me he is the best ever. He won 3 SB with one good QB (Joey T.) and 2 mediocre QB's. His 1983-84 team set an NFL record at that time for most points ever scored in a season, 3X 1K yard receivers, etc. His best coaching years were not winning SB's, they were his last year on Gibbs I, almost beat the 49ers in SF in the playoffs with an injury decimated team and took the Redskins to the playoffs after the tragic death of Sean Taylor during Gibbs II. Bill Walsh gets all the accolades for running the Paul Brown offense. Joe Gibbs in my biased opinion was the best coach ever!!!!!! You can throw in NASCAR success and professional Racquetball career. A true WINNER !!!!!!!
By the way, Walsh won 3 SB's too.
Reading that gave me the sillies!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell him!!!!!
SmootSmack
12-13-2010, 11:41 PM
And I guess we're talking retired coaches here. Because if Belichick wins it all again this year...
SFREDSKIN
12-13-2010, 11:50 PM
Reading that gave me the sillies!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell him!!!!!
Forgot one more. Beat the Dallas Cowboys during the strike season while the Cowboys had 7 starters including stars Danny White, Tony Dorsett and Randy White. The reason Gibbs doesn't get the recognition, is cause he won 2 SB's during strike seasons. Noll, Walsh, Belichick have won 3 SB's with the same QB and the Patriots will not win the SB this year.
mooby
12-13-2010, 11:51 PM
And I guess we're talking retired coaches here. Because if Belichick wins it all again this year...
He's already 3/4 in SB's. Even if he goes 3-5 I think people would still say he's better than Gibbs. I'm not even going to debate this one, as my knowledge of the Skins teams in the 80's is 1. Great offensive line 2. Great wideouts 3. Great run game some seasons? 4. Solid defense and qb's, and 5th. 3 SB trophies in 4 appearances.
Forgot one more. Beat the Dallas Cowboys during the strike season while the Cowboys had 7 starters including stars Danny White, Tony Dorsett and Randy White. The reason Gibbs doesn't get the recognition, is cause he won 2 SB's during strike seasons. Noll, Walsh, Belichick have won 3 SB's with the same QB and the Patriots will not win the SB this year.
I agree with most of what you said. But how can you be sure the Pats won't win it this year?
Dirtbag59
12-14-2010, 12:02 AM
And I guess we're talking retired coaches here. Because if Belichick wins it all again this year...
No one will ever do it with 3 QB's and RB's ever again. Knoll, Belicheck, Johnson, and Landry all won it with the same QB's. Parcells won with two different QB's and two different starting RB's but thats about as close as anyone will get. Though I must admit if Parcells hadn't jumped around so much trying to rebuild every cellar dweller he could get his hands on he easily could have been the undisputed greatest head coach ever.
SFREDSKIN
12-14-2010, 12:04 AM
I agree with most of what you said. But how can you be sure the Pats won't win it this year?
I know they look unbeatable right now, just watch.
12thMan
12-14-2010, 12:21 AM
I think it's hard to compare different coaches from different eras. But I think Joe Gibbs and Bill Walsh were the greatest during their time; before free agency took it's hold on the league. I tellya, watching the Hogs and those teams was a thing of beauty. If a team beat the Skins back then it was beause they were stocked with talent and extremely well coached. Oh, and RFK was one of the most feared places to play in the NFL. We knew that if there was a playoff game at RFK, it was pretty much a wrap. Gibbs would have players practicing in the cold weather, rain, sleet, snow...or whatever. When you think abou it, it's crazy how they pamper these guys today. Totally different league now.
Someone look up Gibbs' playoff record at RFK. I'm betting his winning percentage was somewhere in the high 700s percentile.
I think when it's all said and done though, Belichick will go down as one of the greatest.
WilbursHomie
12-14-2010, 01:11 AM
Joe Gibbs is the greatest coach/human being in any profession ever.
Dirtbag59
12-14-2010, 01:18 AM
When you think abou it, it's crazy how they pamper these guys today. Totally different league now.
Certainly becomes more understandable when you see how old school football results in guys that can't even go to the bathroom themselves or in some cases remember the names of their kids. I've seen guys that were career backups with obvious physical ailments weather it be a limp or the inability to keep their back straight. This game as much as we love it really does come with a high price for many who play it.