Is it finally time to rebuild??

Bobby Beathard's Redskins drafted a lot of duds in the mid to late rounds. A lot. Not to mention regularly traded out of the first round. But he did do a good job of putting the team in a position on draft day to afford to make countless mistakes. We haven't really put ourselves in that position recently.

That's essentially half of a good draft strategy; getting picks. The other half is of course scouting & drafting well. We haven't drafted that poorly on a per capita basis compared to the rest of the league, we just have squandered so many picks that we've got less to show for our drafts.

I thought the trade for Brunell was fine, Kendall we got I think for a 5th rounder (shouldn't have come to that, but not a bad move for some veteran OL help). Portis has had (if it's over) quite a career for the Redskins. The Duckett move was a total waste. Didn't like it from the start. Expected much more from Lloyd, but he was a WR in his prime when we traded for him.

This is exactly what I meant. Sure, every year every team tries to get younger. BUT rebuilding means that you (1) keep your draft picks, and (2) trade away older core great players to get more picks or younger players. Just like NE trading Randy Moss - good player but the 3rd round pick is more valuable to the team in the long-term. Brilliant.

For us, it'd be any of these guys:
- Cooley
- S.Moss
- C. Rogers
- A.Carter

These are great players but -- how would they help us in the next 3 years? They'd all be older than 31-32 by then, and past their primes. Better to have a younger player that can be around for 10 years.

That is what I meant about rebuilding. Again, I'm not sure we're going to do it. If we get lucky with picks and trades, we can put together a good team each year. But rebuilding has the potential to make a great team for a decade, like NE/Ravens/etc.

I'd add Landry as the most tradable player we have. Certainly I don't want to see him go, but what if a scenario like this comes up:

LL, AH & our 1st rounder to NO (the GW connection w/Landry) for multiple picks, e.g. their 1st-3rd? I'm just sayin, Landry is the only guy that could generate a blockbuster deal. I would hope Orakpo is off limits unless we get a H. Walker type offer.

That's essentially half of a good draft strategy; getting picks. The other half is of course scouting & drafting well. We haven't drafted that poorly on a per capita basis compared to the rest of the league, we just have squandered so many picks that we've got less to show for our drafts.

Agreed, to an extent. Good draft strategy is either accumulating picks or making smart decisions with the picks you have. But I've brought up the Patriots in the past, they have had several draft picks that either a) contributed nothing in their first year and/or are no longer with the team, let alone in the league. But they give themselves countless opportunities to build the team

Agreed, to an extent. Good draft strategy is either accumulating picks or making smart decisions with the picks you have. But I've brought up the Patriots in the past, they have had several draft picks that either a) contributed nothing in their first year and/or are no longer with the team, let alone in the league. But they give themselves countless opportunities to build the team

pats & iggles have had about the same strategy over the years; build through the draft, acquire additional picks when possible & let old players walk or trade them.

Yes.

Graham Gano essentially represents the conundrum Redskins fans face. Ask every 5 Redskins fans, and probably 3 want him gone. But if you want to rebuild, you probably have to have patience and put up with Gano missing some kicks, Sundberg botching a snap, Banks fumbling, Riley committing a penalty, Moore missing a tackle...that said, there's a fine (very fine) line between being patient and holding on for too long

Don't have a problem with Gano missing yesterday. Keep the guy around and let him learn from it and hopefully it will make him mentally tougher. Same w/ Riley. Actually I'd like to see Riley get snaps on defense and Banks more snaps on offense. At this point what good does it do the team in the future to keep putting Roydell Williams out there? Moore really doesn't seem like he's a good player. If your free safety can't tackle then it's time to move on.

YEah, the Skins have been rebuilding, just not doing a good job of it. This organization has been rebuilding since Gibbs left the first time. The Turner years would have been more succesful if we had drafted a lot wiser than we did. THe Shuler bust forced us to go to guys that were brought in to be nice young backups(Frerotte, Green), but ended up being starters. If Shuler didn't suck, and lived up to expectations the franchise would have been fine. The Desmond Howard debacle hurt also. The past ten years has sucked for us in the draft as well. To me we need a new and improved scouting crew, but even that is worthless if the FO doesn't have some sort of plan in place to build a winner. THus far, I am not seeing it. THis past draft we did get Trent, but the rest of it seemed disjointed since we gave up picks. KEEP THE PICKS DAMNIT!!!!!!!!

Could have resigned Trent Green, but instead gave up 3 draft picks to the Vikings for a 2 year rental of Brad Johnson.

Could have resigned Trent Green, but instead gave up 3 draft picks to the Vikings for a 2 year rental of Brad Johnson.

I think the ownership issue prevented us from giving a more lucrative offer to Green.