Is it finally time to rebuild??

Orton doesn't suck, the Bills will take a QB, and don't be suprised if Cincy does also.

Did we make any moves last offseason to make us a better team? We brought in a lot of new guys that haven't helped much. In my opinion, Williams & Banks were the only good moves our FO made. Based upon this season and his time in Tampa, I'm not sure Bruce Allen will do a good job rebuilding.

So we've already written off Torain, K Williams, Capers, Cook, Riley, Austin?

SmootSmack, how much of an impact do you think Capers and Cook can have next year being on the practice squad almost all of this year? Is it normal for guys who don't make the team their first year to come back and actually have an impact for a team?

I dont know if this is common knowledge or not yet, but its offical that for the 2011 draft, New Orleans gets our 3rd and Philadelphia our 4th...

Don't forget New Orleans gave back a 5th rounder too.

So as it stands right now draft pics are

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5 Saints
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6/7 Colts (Justin Tryon)
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Don't forget New Orleans gave back a 5th rounder too.

So as it stands right now draft pics are

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5 Saints
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6/7 Colts (Justin Tryon)
7

add in some picks for AH and DM and it's not looking too bad at all

So we've already written off Torain, K Williams, Capers, Cook, Riley, Austin?

Sorry, I have. Torain & Williams because it seems like you can plug anyone in at RB except for Larry Johnson & Willie Parker and get good results. I think RB is still a position we need to address. If it weren't for Torain's injury problems though. I think he was a good move.

I don't know about Capers & Cook. As bad as they looked in the preseason, they would have to improve drastically. With our poor OL, the fact that they've been stuck on the practice squad doesn't encourage me much either.

Same sort of thing for Austin. As bad as our WR corps has been and he's not on the field?

Still haven't forgiven Riley for costing us that game. I think he'll be a nominal starter at best in this league.

Obviously, you need to give rookies time, but I'm more discouraged about not bringing in quality veterans.

SmootSmack, how much of an impact do you think Capers and Cook can have next year being on the practice squad almost all of this year? Is it normal for guys who don't make the team their first year to come back and actually have an impact for a team?

I like Capers, so so on Cook. Being on the practice squad for a year is not the kiss of death.

Orakpo, Landry, Fletcher, T. Williams, Moss, Cooley, and Torain should be the only players that are locked in next year as starters with this team (and Banks on special teams). The rest of the positions are wide open to being replaced with young talent. We really have no area of strength on this team. For the draft I think we should use either the 1st or 2nd round pick on an offensive lineman but besides that choose the best available players regardless of position because they can be starters on this team. Say we draft at #8, what position could we possibly be upset about if they make a selection there? (originally i wanted both 1st/2nd picks on o-lineman but after watching more games we need help EVERYWHERE!)