Surprise move on tax cuts by Obama

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firstdown
12-08-2010, 05:13 PM
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2010/08/11/GR2010081106717.gif

Comparing Democratic and Republican tax plans (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2010/08/11/GR2010081106717.html)


This is a f*&%ed up chart because a good portion of those people don't even pay federal income taxes. So they don't pay but they can get tax refunds in the thousands.

CRedskinsRule
12-08-2010, 06:27 PM
This is a f*&%ed up chart because a good portion of those people don't even pay federal income taxes. So they don't pay but they can get tax refunds in the thousands.

The other f*&%ed up part is that they don't make the income brackets graphically apparent. So when you see it, your eyes focus on the disparity at the top level, and that feels unfair. But if they had the same circles on the income side then the proportionality of the system would be more tangible, and the picture would make better sense. You could still have the debate, it just would be more correctly framed

saden1
12-08-2010, 06:54 PM
Federal spending was also held in check durn the Clinton years also.
Federal Spending per Household Is Skyrocketing (http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/federal-spending-per-household)

Also federal income has risen over the years so whats your point?
Federal Revenue, Taxes and Tax Rates: Government Revenue and Tax Trends Charts (http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/federal-revenue)

We don't have a tax problem we have a spending problem. Both parties have had this spending problem so I'm not blaming either party. Everyone hated Newt. G. but he was the last person in charge that actually did what he said and kept spending down which allowed Clinton to have a balance budget. I don't have problem paying my fair share in taxes when they clean up the waist.

What's debilitating and increasing this country financial problems are the wars and the out of control defense budget. Continuing to reduce the federal income by reducing taxes, raiding social security, and spending money on "defense" is certain to make the problem worse. The reason we are where we are is because we don't address the real issues and these morons think their agreement is a step in the right direction.

Down with this garbage...I would rather raise taxes on everyone and spite my face.

SirClintonPortis
12-08-2010, 07:18 PM
For all their conflicts, a lot of the Dems and Repubs are Keynesians at heart, and the economics-illiterate public gets suckered in by their half-truths.

firstdown
12-08-2010, 11:13 PM
What's debilitating and increasing this country financial problems are the wars and the out of control defense budget. Continuing to reduce the federal income by reducing taxes, raiding social security, and spending money on "defense" is certain to make the problem worse. The reason we are where we are is because we don't address the real issues and these morons think their agreement is a step in the right direction.

Down with this garbage...I would rather raise taxes on everyone and spite my face.

Well maybe if we stopped giving 50% of the people a free ride on federal taxes things would not be so bad. I under stand some of the poor just don't make enough but 50% of the population not paying any taxes. Then a good number of them get tax refunds after paying nothing into the system but we make it sound like the rich are getting a free ride. Hell they are the ones paying the bills.

Also if you actually looked at the chart federal income has not dropped its increased. I agree we need to cut defense but we also need to make a bunch of other cuts in social programs.

drew54
12-09-2010, 04:38 PM
White House White Board | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/whiteboard)

"Invest in America, and grow our way out of this problem."

mlmpetert
12-09-2010, 06:51 PM
YouTube - Kelly vs. Weiner: Fairness of Death Tax (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO9PqfGUFZE)

shes so hot

firstdown
12-09-2010, 07:43 PM
White House White Board | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/whiteboard)

"Invest in America, and grow our way out of this problem."

What F^$#ing BS. They have had control of congress and the Witehouse but only now is it important to pass those things to grow our way out. Why not do these thing two years ago if they are so important?

drew54
12-10-2010, 01:48 AM
Our gov't has failed us. We voted for them, so I guess we have failed ourselves.

GMScud
12-10-2010, 11:45 AM
YouTube - Kelly vs. Weiner: Fairness of Death Tax (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO9PqfGUFZE)

shes so hot

Oh my god yeah. I love Megyn Kelly. Whenever I'm home during the week at lunch time, I always have her on. My wife even called her hot a month or two ago. That was awesome.

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