Week 13: Redskins vs. Giants Gameday thread


Hog1
12-05-2010, 10:48 PM
The funny thing is it looks like our guys really don't know how to tackle and that comes down to coaching. Rocky is grabbing at Jacobs shoulder pads, Reed D. is grabbing at ankles, and don't get me started on Moore.

It is difficult to imagine that players at this level who have played.....many years do not know how to perform the most fundamental of football manuevers......I lay that on the players.

MTK
12-05-2010, 11:16 PM
Tackling is part fundamentals and part attitude. The latter seemed to be severely lacking today.

44Deezel
12-05-2010, 11:29 PM
Tackling is part fundamentals and part attitude. The latter seemed to be severely lacking today.

It comes down to talent as well. When a less talented guy is trying to tackle a more talented guy, the less talented guy can be made to look foolish.

We have a team full of the former;)

SirClintonPortis
12-05-2010, 11:33 PM
He played last year when they ran up 40+ on us. It would not have mattered one bit. If he's in there Giants still win the game easily.

I remember he sacked Sheli to stop a drive early in the game. Don't blame him for everyone else and Blache's actions.

53Fan
12-05-2010, 11:41 PM
In a season born of change and optimism....the total suckitude of this team has reached epic proportions. :Smoker:

skinsfaninok
12-05-2010, 11:45 PM
In a season born of change and optimism....the total suckitude of this team has reached epic proportions.

How can a Skins fan look forward to the future if we play like this every week? It's a damn joke and DS needs to sell the team, a Drastic change has to be made to the organization for me to actually believe in them ever again. We had Gibbs and now Shanny and we still suck ass.. Yea shanny has to get his own players in but you can't rebuild with a OLD roster.

MTK
12-05-2010, 11:47 PM
I think under Snyder the one constant has been change. I'm hoping we're done with change for a while when it comes to Allen and Shanahan. Let's see what they can build and give it more than one season.

skinsfaninok
12-05-2010, 11:49 PM
I think under Snyder the one constant has been change. I'm hoping we're done with change for a while when it comes to Allen and Shanahan. Let's see what they can build and give it more than one season.

It's just frustrating man, losing is contagious and my god we have lost alot the last few years

44Deezel
12-05-2010, 11:50 PM
How can a Skins fan look forward to the future if we play like this every week? It's a damn joke and DS needs to sell the team, a Drastic change has to be made to the organization for me to actually believe in them ever again. We had Gibbs and now Shanny and we still suck ass.. Yea shanny has to get his own players in but you can't rebuild with a OLD roster.

And we'll never rebuild by hiring old coaches. This team needs to behave like an expansion team, but it will always be a patchwork job (vs. truly rebuilding) with guys in their 60's at the helm.

mooby
12-06-2010, 12:00 AM
Not to turn this into another Haynesworth thread but I think the reason Shanny didn't let him play today wasn't another egotistical moment. According to this (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/05/AR2010120504364.html) article it's not just Shanny that's fed up with him, it's his fellow teammates, including some of our defensive Pro Bowlers that don't want to be named (I have to assume Fletcher/Orakpo are a couple of them).

Since I don't have much to go on I'm going to assume that Haynesworth's sickness that kept him out of practice, probably wasn't much, like maybe a cold or a lesser illness, and he could've practiced if he wanted but obviously chose not to. I'm assuming along those lines simply because of what the article says about Phillip Daniels and how injured he is, yet he hasn't missed a practice/meeting/etc.

Not to restart all this Haynesworth drama but this article paints the picture that Haynesworth might not play another game for the Redskins. Now I doubt that, if he practices this week/future weeks, I think he'll finish out the season for the Skins and then get traded, but overall I wouldn't be suprised if him and Haslett are gone at the end of the season. I'm only including Haslett because of how bad our defense has been this season, like it's been bad on a historic level, and it's not just something that can be blamed on making the switch to the 3-4. Tackling has been bad, coverage has been bad, run defense has been horrible (I mean really, we need to just start wrapping up, that's all you have to do. No ankle tackles, half-arm grabs, grabbing a shoulder pad, giving a "bump" that barely causes a guy like Brandon Jacobs to stumble, etc.)

Now we can't blame Haynesworth for everything, I mean it's not like even when he's been in there we've been awesome 100% of the time, and we can't blame half-assed tackling on his behalf, but this is getting to be a bit much. It's to the point where I'm starting to miss lesser talented but obviously more dedicated guys like Cornie Griffin. I've actually forgotten what it's like to not have a diva defensive tackle on this team (And I actually never thought I'd use the terms diva and defensive tackle in the same sentence).

So Smootsmack, would I be right in assuming that's what all this "more behind the scenes" drama is with Haynesworth? And what's up with ESPN having a link up besides the Skins-Giants game recap that says "Haynesworth benched?" but the story doesn't show when I click on it? Tell 'em to get that fixed or take the link down.

EDIT: Alright, ESPN fixed the link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5888908).

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