Where was Keiland Williams???

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Pocket$ $traight
12-01-2010, 10:20 PM
Why? Because he was on the practice squad?
You know there are a bunch of backs, good backs that came off the practice squad right?
And where did i say anything about what type of back Keiland is good or bad?
The most i said was that he was the most experienced of the 2 backs we had available.

Let me remind you what i said:





Your argument is all over the place and your post above clearly shows you are missing my point.
We didn't need nor did i say Keiland would have rushed for 100 yards.
No.
I'm saying something quite simple.
Regardless of the RB an offense makes thing harder on itself when they abandon the run.
That's all i've been saying.
Even if you think Keiland is the worst RB on earth, quiting on the run is always the wrong move.
The stat line from your post would have been enough of a semblance of running game to prevent the Packers defense from focusing on the passing game only.
Your post actually makes my point.



Again this more fluff.
And technically Foster was a part time starter himself.
Either way it has nothing to do with my point.



And yet again you make my point.


"But with five games remaining in the season (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/sectionfront/schedule.html), a closer look at Shanahan's own history reveals just how woefully behind the Washington rushing game appears to be".

Heading into the Giants game, the Redskins are running the ball - and going nowhere (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120106308.html)

Does this article in the Washington Post back up your point too? lol

The more you type, the more wrong you get. THIS TEAM CANNOT RUN THE BALL, THAT IS WHY THE COACHES ARE ABANDONING IT.

Is that clear enough for you?

EARTHQUAKE2689
12-01-2010, 10:55 PM
There are a couple of big differences. Williams wasn't even good enough to start on his college team and, more importantly, Williams is playing because of injuries. Foster won that job by the end of the year through his hard work and then never looked back.

Willams is the starter by default and now it looks like a guy off the street may take his job. I am not closing the book on KW, I am just standing by my original statement. He is a practice squad back or 3rd stringer at best. There is nothing wrong with that but I don't want to hear how we lost last Sunday's game because we didn't force carries to Keiland Williams. That is delusional.

The knock on Foster was his work ethic. And there were times where KW started for LSU. But for the most part he split carries with Charles Scott his last 2 years and backed up Jacob Hester his first two. Dwayne Jarrett started in college and you saw how that worked. Just because someone doesnt start in college doesnt mean crap

30gut
12-01-2010, 11:37 PM
"But with five games remaining in the season (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/sectionfront/schedule.html), a closer look at Shanahan's own history reveals just how woefully behind the Washington rushing game appears to be".

Heading into the Giants game, the Redskins are running the ball - and going nowhere (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120106308.html)

Does this article in the Washington Post back up your point too? lol

The more you type, the more wrong you get. THIS TEAM CANNOT RUN THE BALL, THAT IS WHY THE COACHES ARE ABANDONING IT.

Is that clear enough for you?

Is this how you carry on in every discussion when you're struggling to make or prove your point?

LoL, do you even understand my point?
And what is your point?
B/c Kyle abandons the run it makes it the right decision?
Same as playing Joey Galloway, same as not playing Fred Davis?
C'mon.
We shouldn't attempt to run the ball b/c we're not good at it?
You know how you set up play-action?
You run the ball.
You know how you keep the defense from focusing on the pass?
You run the ball.
You don't even need to run the ball well.
Heck, sometimes play-action works better when the defense is having success stopping the run.

"It's an emphasis here. Always will be....If you take a look at my history, I think it speaks for itself."

But guess what his son has been doing?
This year's Redskins team is averaging 22.5 carries per game. Shanahan's Denver teams averaged 30.6 carries per game.

Okay, lets forget this arguement b/c you don't understand it.
But let me ask you this:
If we stick to the run and are able to win a game would that make a difference to you?

Pocket$ $traight
12-05-2010, 01:35 PM
Nice knowing you Keiland Williams. A guy who was washing cars two weeks ago is ten times better than you.

So who actually said Williams deserved more carries last week?! <crickets>

EARTHQUAKE2689
12-05-2010, 02:01 PM
I still stand by that and James Davis hasn't done anything either.

44ever
12-05-2010, 04:40 PM
Nice knowing you Keiland Williams. A guy who was washing cars two weeks ago is ten times better than you.

So who actually said Williams deserved more carries last week?! <crickets>

Cant expect the guy to establish if he is being rotated every other play. Still not getting a fair shot IMO.

30gut
12-05-2010, 06:06 PM
Nice knowing you Keiland Williams. A guy who was washing cars two weeks ago is ten times better than you.

So who actually said Williams deserved more carries last week?! <crickets>
Um okay?

J.Davis 9 att 40 yds 4.4 avg 14 long
K.Williams 5 att 29 yds 5.8 avg 20 long

And for the sake of accuracy:
You have to run the ball with the RBs more then 9 times.
We have no idea how the running game would have panned out if we actually tried to run the ball.
We're an outside zone/outside edge running team (and the Vikings run weakness is on the edge w/ their Jared Allen and a back-up! LDE) yet we ran inside w/ our least experienced RB: James Davis when Keiland Williams was perfectly healthy.
But it either way 6 carries for James Davis and 3 carries for Keiland Williams is not enough to establish a running game.

MTK
12-06-2010, 12:51 PM
lol did I miss the game yesterday? What did Davis do that was so impressive over Keiland?

EARTHQUAKE2689
12-06-2010, 03:19 PM
lol did I miss the game yesterday? What did Davis do that was so impressive over Keiland?


He wore number 24 in a very nice way.

MTK
12-06-2010, 03:44 PM
He wore number 24 in a very nice way.

lol he does wear it well, but I still keeping thinking it's Shawn Springs or Champ Bailey at RB

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