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celts32 04-14-2011, 11:41 AM What if they love Locker..but love (for example) Andy Dalton AND Phil Taylor more?
In that case a trade down makes all the sense in the world. I don't agree with a trade down if Locker is the only QB they are targeting. If there are multiple options they like then attempting to trade down makes sense.
JoeRedskin 04-14-2011, 11:47 AM Here's Mallet (I thought he was actually pretty solid)
QB Camp: Ryan Mallett - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6347583)
and Dalton (I'm still not really seeing the fascination)
QB Camp: Andy Dalton - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6338960)
The last mock from Kiper had us taking the QB out of Las Vegas (Koeperniachalechsentesck or something) in the 2nd round. Is this guy on really on our radar? Is he really rated as a 2nd round talent?
Just curious.
celts32 04-14-2011, 12:05 PM The last mock from Kiper had us taking the QB out of Las Vegas (Koeperniachalechsentesck or something) in the 2nd round. Is this guy on really on our radar? Is he really rated as a 2nd round talent?
Just curious.
I have seen a lot of mock drafts giving us Kaepernick in round #2. It will scare the hell out of me if he ends up being the QB they draft. He is a total project. Was most likely a late round pick until he looked good at the Senior Bowl. If they say locker, gabbert and Newton need a year of grooming before they play i would hate to see how long it takes us to get this guy ready...
SmootSmack 04-14-2011, 12:13 PM Take out Newton and Gabbert b/c the Redskins won't trade up for either of those guys (I don't think)
Then you've probably got this order of preference, from what I've gathered
1. Dalton
1A. Locker
2. Ponder
3. Kaepernick
4. Mallet
However, after Ponder I believe that actually that cluster of McElroy, Taylor (maybe Stanzi) is preferable in 4th or 5th round over Kaepernick or Mallet in the 1st 2 rounds.
So, I would say if not Dalton, Locker, or Ponder then they probably wait a few rounds to take someone like McElroy. Again, no FA is really messing their plans up
JoeRedskin 04-14-2011, 12:21 PM ^^ Thanks.
celts32 04-14-2011, 12:27 PM Take out Newton and Gabbert b/c the Redskins won't trade up for either of those guys (I don't think)
Then you've probably got this order of preference, from what I've gathered
1. Dalton
1A. Locker
2. Ponder
3. Kaepernick
4. Mallet
However, after Ponder I believe that actually that cluster of McElroy, Taylor (maybe Stanzi) is preferable in 4th or 5th round over Kaepernick or Mallet in the 1st 2 rounds.
So, I would say if not Dalton, Locker, or Ponder then they probably wait a few rounds to take someone like McElroy. Again, no FA is really messing their plans up
Wow Dalton. He's obviosly not in the mix at #10 so that puts them in a position of trying to trade up from #41 to the end of the 1st round which is not easy to do.
Aside from the fact that you don't think they will trade up...what are you hearing of their interest in Gabbert or Newton in general? Would they be 1 & 2 on that list?
freddyg12 04-14-2011, 12:30 PM Take out Newton and Gabbert b/c the Redskins won't trade up for either of those guys (I don't think)
Then you've probably got this order of preference, from what I've gathered
1. Dalton
1A. Locker
2. Ponder
3. Kaepernick
4. Mallet
However, after Ponder I believe that actually that cluster of McElroy, Taylor (maybe Stanzi) is preferable in 4th or 5th round over Kaepernick or Mallet in the 1st 2 rounds.
So, I would say if not Dalton, Locker, or Ponder then they probably wait a few rounds to take someone like McElroy. Again, no FA is really messing their plans up
Tyrod!
SmootSmack 04-14-2011, 12:34 PM Wow Dalton. He's obviosly not in the mix at #10 so that puts them in a position of trying to trade up from #41 in the end of the end of the 1st round.
Aside from the fact that you don't think they will trade up...what are you hearing of their interest in Gabbert or Newton in general? Would they be 1 & 2 on that list?
Trade up from #41 or trade down from #10.
Good question, I don't really know the answer. I think maybe yes, but they were never really serious possibilities.
What's interesting, to me at least, is that I mentioned Quinn being at the top of their board since the beginning of January and that (from all I've heard) hasn't changed in the last 3 months. That's extremely uncommon. That's a sign of what no Free Agency does
Son Of Man 04-14-2011, 12:53 PM YouTube - Gruden's QB Camp: Jake Locker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWqU3VXIJY4&feature=player_embedded)
I really like this kid. Thanks for the link.
Skins4Eva 04-14-2011, 01:42 PM In my opinion, with our limited amount of picks, our best bet would be to trade out of the 10 spot. A very "non-flashy" but highly effective first two picks for our team woulde be:
Trade out of #10 (if possible)
Select Cameron Heyward with the first pick; then grab Phil Taylor.
I know that many of us want is a QB, but let's not forget last season, we absolutely could not stop anyone! By taking Heyward and Taylor, we are getting great value and are building the foundation of our new 3-4. We all are aware of Taylor's upside, but Heyward's name is not one I've heard mentioned a lot. He has the size, decent explosiveness and the character/work ethic that would serve the 3-4 and our team well.
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