LOL @ Redskins

What happened to Horton? I mean, he seemed to have a really good rookie season, and then all of a sudden, we don't see him on the field? What gives?

What happened to Horton? I mean, he seemed to have a really good rookie season, and then all of a sudden, we don't see him on the field? What gives?

Well he's on IR

imo horton got overrated by the fan base very early on. he had a deflection int, the next game he had a real nice pick on romo, got named what? defensive rookie of the month i think?

outside of the romo pick, i dont think horton did anything to show he was nothing more than a 7th round pick talent.

between horton, moore and doughty i had hoped one would step forward. seems all three are ok, decent depth/ST players but nothing more. not that it makes them bad players imo, they are what they are (7th round talent) but we hoped one would emerge as a decent enoguh starter. its a shame, i like all 3 players.

OK. Philly has weapons at skill positions they nabbed in the draft. How many picks do the 'Skins have in the 2011 draft..or for that matter...2012?

it is going to take time to build this team in the mold of what Shanny feels is necessary to win. It isn't going to happen next year either. I hope he is still around year 3, 4 and so on. This organization has this mentality that building takes two years, and if it isn't working then blow the whole thing up and start over. Hopefullly Allen can get into Snyders head and make him realize that it takes a few years to see consistant results. All the teams that are at the top have a proven way to win in the NFL. It is amazing to compare rosters of say Indy, NE, Philly, Pitts, Giants to ours. of the 53 man rosters, 95% of theirs is draft picks. We aren't even sniffing that. We need smart people putting together teams, not Danny putting together FA. Allen has built some good teams in the past, so hopefully between him and Shanny they can put something together by year 3. Problem may be by then we will be searching for another QB. I am not confident that Donovan will be here after this year, even with the signing of the extension. They way is sounds, it is heavily loaded after next year which tends to reason he wont be here after 2011.

I know you guys are definitly done with me saying it but I'll say it again.... had the team came out and said we are "rebuilding" the fan base would not (or so I believe) have such a high expectation. The majority of the fan base as well as the media would be saying "wow the Skins have come a long way, and if they can get all the right pieces to run the 3-4 and some better OL this team will be a power house for the future."

Instead everyones hopes get high and we win some games we probably should not have and lost some we probably should not have. Now we have fans with the "I'm done" mentality or "fire Haslett" mentality. This was not all on the coaching staff. Yes the coaching staff did a poor job getting ready to play especially after a bye week but the players have to learn to tackle, the players have to be in the right spot.

Across the board the Skins looked bad. I think if the team picks up a couple more OL (get rid of Heyer, whome I've supported, and Hicks) and hopefully a tall WR and pick up a few pieces for the defensive side like someone to replace Carter at LB, and a true FS, and NT the team might, might be better next yr.

I know you guys are definitly done with me saying it but I'll say it again.... had the team came out and said we are "rebuilding" the fan base would not (or so I believe) have such a high expectation. The majority of the fan base as well as the media would be saying "wow the Skins have come a long way, and if they can get all the right pieces to run the 3-4 and some better OL this team will be a power house for the future."

Instead everyones hopes get high and we win some games we probably should not have and lost some we probably should not have. Now we have fans with the "I'm done" mentality or "fire Haslett" mentality. This was not all on the coaching staff. Yes the coaching staff did a poor job getting ready to play especially after a bye week but the players have to learn to tackle, the players have to be in the right spot.

Across the board the Skins looked bad. I think if the team picks up a couple more OL (get rid of Heyer, whome I've supported, and Hicks) and hopefully a tall WR and pick up a few pieces for the defensive side like someone to replace Carter at LB, and a true FS, and NT the team might, might be better next yr.

This fan base would never accept "rebuilding" They may say they would but there's no way they could accept it.

This fan base would never accept "rebuilding" They may say they would but there's no way they could accept it.


I don't think any team goes into a season and public says this a rebuilding year, that would be a PR nightmare.

yeah i know that allen said we are not in rebuild mode but the temperature of skins fans before the season was expecting 8-8. we are still on course for that.

some where between beating dallas in week 1, winning against the packers then having the NFC east become anyones division, suddenly expectations were raised to playoff or bust status.

i could have done without yet another total demolishing during a home MNF game thoo.

[QUOTE=SBXVII;759526]I know you guys are definitly done with me saying it but I'll say it again.... had the team came out and said we are "rebuilding" the fan base would not (or so I believe) have such a high expectation. The majority of the fan base as well as the media would be saying "wow the Skins have come a long way, and if they can get all the right pieces to run the 3-4 and some better OL this team will be a power house for the future."

Instead everyones hopes get high and we win some games we probably should not have and lost some we probably should not have. Now we have fans with the "I'm done" mentality or "fire Haslett" mentality. This was not all on the coaching staff. Yes the coaching staff did a poor job getting ready to play especially after a bye week but the players have to learn to tackle, the players have to be in the right spot.


Danny will not allow the Redskins to say the word "Rebuild". That is the problem. They hype that is spued from Redskin park has us believing year in and year out that this is the year we make a difference. I think a ton of us Redskin fans would find it refreshing to hear those words. We just dont have an owner that believes in rebuilding. he believes in retooling. Leonsis has the perfect formula for winning, building and gaining support from the fan base. Snyder should be giving him a call. Even though the Wizards stink, they knew it and said from the get go we are rebuilding, but we are excited about the potential of this team. Market the right way, bring fans into the organization and doesn't make them feel so distant. He has done wonders with the Caps, and will do so with the Wizards. Danny needs to sit back and let this team build, stop trading picks away and start getting rid of players that are productive, but past the good days. Moss, Carter, (hate to say it) Fletcher, cooler or Davis (pick one) Haynesworth, Portis. The list could go on.
I would be willing to go through a couple years of rebuilding if the front office was committed to it and committed to the coach and GM. I just dont think that will ever happen here.