I think I found the next Tom Brady..

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30gut
03-09-2011, 02:14 AM
As a mid-round prospect I like Stanzi also but any time you say that you found the next Tom Brady you should expect some pushback and rightfully so.

But, there are some similarities that I see both wear 12 both played in a pro-style offense both have a classic over the top throwing motion.

Anyway here's some evals I did on Stanzi last year:
I like Stanzi too especially since he could be available in outside the 1st 2 rounds.
Here's my take:
Ricky Stanzi is not any type of real threat to run nor does he have a big time arm.
He lacks the physical superlatives like a Locker or Newton.
But he has proto-typical NFL frame, decent arm (i hope he throws at the combine), good production/efficiency (almost on par w/ Luck) and comes from a pro-style offense.
Nice compact throwing motion w/ a quick release.(although and this is just a nit-pick he sometimes holds the ball kinda low and very very rarely seems to pat the ball or hitch his delivery)
Good footwork 3-5-7 step drop back foot hits the ground the balls out.
Has a clean drop back, sets his feet, and throws from a solid base.
He moves well in and out of the pocket and can throw on the run.

What's your assessment?
YouTube - Stanzi.mov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x2UUWgv1NQ)

I think these were from last year.
B/c looking at "youtube" film from this year i don't see most of the above flaws.
nepatriots.com mentions-

throwing from the pocket mechanical flaws-but his footwork especially looks very sound and consistent i see good weight transfer and his feet seem light.

Again this must be a review from last year b/c its hard imo to reconcile locking onto a receiver/fitting the ball in tight spaces/decision making need work when you consider his production from this year:

64.8 comp %
8.65 YPA
25 TDs
4 INTs
160.5 Efficiensy rating

In the pros?
He reminds me of Marc Bulger-Matt Schaub type QB.

MTK
03-09-2011, 08:44 AM
First time I've ever heard anyone say Elway benefited from having the receivers he did

You don't remember all the stud wide receivers he played with? They totally made him.

Monkeydad
03-09-2011, 10:46 AM
First time I've ever heard anyone say Elway benefited from having the receivers he did


They were so great they had a nickname! :doh:

http://www.authenticsportscollectibles.com/store/images/threeamigoss8.jpg

mredskins
03-09-2011, 12:29 PM
I didn't know Colt Brennan had similar numbers as Tom Brady? I guess he did since you mentioned him. Wow. Yep your right not everyone pans out.

Pineapple Jesus:

Career Passing: 1115 Cmp, 1584 Att, 14193 Yds, 131 TD
Career Rushing: 267 Att, 547 Yds, 2.0 Avg, 15 TD
Career Scoring: 15 TD, 4 2PM, 98 Pts

Tom Brady:

443 completions on 711 attempts, 5351 yards, and 35 touchdowns with only 19 interceptions. He also rushed for 3 touchdowns.
Actually Colt had much better stats!

drew54
03-09-2011, 12:32 PM
PEFORMANCE PER ATTEMPT – A 300-yard passing game in 30 pass attempts, is that not similar to a 200-yard passing game in 20 attempts?…or more to the point a 400-yard game in 40 attempts? It's all still 10 yards per pass attempt? For that matter 2 passing TDs in 20 Pass Attempts is the essentially the same performance as 3 passing TDs in 30 Pass Attempts. Colt Brennan and Graham Harrell should not have an advantage over Tom Brady because they throw 40+ times a game and compile bigger stats. We look at Passing yards, Passing TDs and INTs through the lens of the number of completions and attempts...not game compilations. Quality, not quantity.

I think you forgot to read the article. An Even More Accurate System Of Grading College Quarterbacks? - Daily Norseman (http://www.dailynorseman.com/2011/3/6/2034220/an-even-more-accurate-system-of-grading-college-quarterbacks)

juskins
03-13-2011, 03:01 PM
Ricky Stanzi QB, Iowa, I believe will be the next Tom Brady. Why?
If you look at their stats they are almost identical to when Brady was in college, let me list off some of their similarities:

- Both played in the Big Ten
- Both have almost identical winning records
- Both led their teams to major bowl wins and were named MVP
- Both have the same knock on them coming out of college to the pros; "Good arm, highly accurate, highly intelligent, frail framed, winning QB's"
- Both are 6'4, 210-ish lb's
- Both have alright, but not highly touted NFL, receivers to throw to in college
- (Even though Stanzi still has a few more games to play) their touchdown to interception ratio is almost identical.
- they both take what the defense gives them.
- they both played in NFL systems in college
- they both are graded in the later rounds of getting drafted
- they both kind of look alike


Now is Ricky going to be exactly like Tom Brady? No most likely not, but theres definitely a good chance that he ends up being almost as good, and he's definitely worth a draft pick in the 2nd round range IMO.

And being that Shanahan right now isn't too satisfied with McNabb we may take a chance on a guy like this in the draft, especially if we're looking at all these other college QB's right now (Locker,Luck). The one thing Stanzi is which Brady isn't; More mobile, he runs a 4.8 forty.


You, my friend, are one funny poster. I am LMAO!

I know, you say "laugh on but I am right in my assessment of Ricky Stanzi - just wait and see!" Can't wait to be proven wrong.

juskins
03-13-2011, 03:05 PM
^ like I said his arm isn't great, but then again that was a knock on Brady coming out of college, so again, they're similar and I think he'll do just fine.


Who in the ---- would want a QB whose ".......... arm isn't great". Are you serious?

Still LMAO! This is really comic reading! Pass the pike, bro.

drew54
03-13-2011, 04:43 PM
A scouting report written before the draft sized up Brady this way: "Poor build, very skinny and narrow, lacks mobility and the ability to avoid the rush, lacks a really strong arm."

skinster
03-13-2011, 05:34 PM
A scouting report written before the draft sized up Brady this way: "Poor build, very skinny and narrow, lacks mobility and the ability to avoid the rush, lacks a really strong arm."

I think I found 10000 of the next tom brady's

Lotus
03-13-2011, 10:37 PM
A scouting report written before the draft sized up Brady this way: "Poor build, very skinny and narrow, lacks mobility and the ability to avoid the rush, lacks a really strong arm."

Except for the "skinny" part, that description fits me. I must be the next Tom Brady! Here I am Gisele!

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