Analyzing Mike Shanahan at the Midway Point

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GTripp0012
11-14-2010, 12:20 AM
To wrap up, here is my criticism. I feel that the Haynesworth drama and the latest McNabb drama could have been handled differently. I really hope he didn't spend two draft picks to evaluate McNabb. If so, he should've just used those picks to improve the offense in other ways, and stick with Campbell. We probably would have a losing record right now, but for the sake of rebuilding I would be fine with this (probably not, but in the long run yes). I feel that the change to the 3-4 was unnecessary. While yes, it may be a trend, we didn't have the personnel for it and that wasn't the biggest issue with our team. I feel that any efforts into change our defense into a 3-4, should've gone into improving the offense. And improve it not for the sake of winning right away, but maybe set it up to win in the future.Let me throw Devin Thomas onto the list of player issues badly mishandled by Shanahan.

Right personnel move? Probably. Doesn't excuse handling it disgracefully.

SirClintonPortis
11-14-2010, 12:22 AM
I think Bruce Allen may have had a bigger influence in the alumni stuff since, after all, he himself is the son of one.

SirClintonPortis
11-14-2010, 12:24 AM
Let me throw Devin Thomas onto the list of player issues badly misused by Shanahan.

Right personnel move? Probably. Doesn't excuse handling it disgracefully.

Yeah, after some thought, I share this sentiment. He pretty much made it appear that Thomas wasn't giving the effort, which imo is BS. Thomas was playing very hard, but, imo, he was just not the super detail-oriented player Shanahan wanted out of him.

aceinthehouse
11-15-2010, 04:36 PM
Mike Shanahan's November record:
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My source: Mike Shanahan Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ShanMi0.htm)
November Record: 42-21
Head Coach Overall Record: 150-102
Redskins 2010 Record: 4-4

November has started with Mike Shanahan/Redskins and it is very pleasing for me to tell you,it's pretty good.

#1)28% of all his 150 victories as a head coach have come in the Month of November.

#2)Coach Shanny is currently 48 games over .500 as a Head coach. If we were to take every November game away from his total Coaching stats from Wins & Losses...his overall record would be 108--81. That's only 27 games over .500.

#3)Shanny has a 67% chance of winning the game,when the game is played in November

#4)The Redskins have 3 games in the Month of November on their 2010 schedule. The Eagles,@Tennessee and Vikings. So according to Shanny's statistics and what he has done throughout his coaching career....he SHOULD win 2 of those 3 games. Which would give the Skins a 6-5 record to date,if this happens.

It would be very interesting to see Mcnabb November record as well...
GO REDSKINS!!!

GhettoDogAllStars
11-19-2010, 03:21 PM
I would just like to reiterate that the 3-4 was born out of the *lack* of good d-linemen -- ends specifically. It takes two good DEs to make a 4-3 work, and 1 good NT to make the 3-4 work.

The reason we were better last year is because of Haynesworth. Take him off the line and our 4-3 is complete shit. So, why not run the 4-3 with Haynesworth? Because Shanahan is too stubborn to cave to the demands of a single player, regardless of how it might help the team win (in the short term). He's building a disciplined team of professionals that work hard and do their job, regardless of circumstances.

So, in my opinion, we're worse this year because Haynesworth doesn't see the field much (rightfully so, IMO) -- not because we switched to 3-4. That's a simplification I know, but so is just saying that we don't have the personnel for 3-4 and that's why it isn't working.

backrow
11-20-2010, 01:02 AM
Best insight on MS anywhere!

Thomas Boswell - Mike Shanahan needs to play to Redskins' strengths (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/19/AR2010111902798.html?sid=ST2010111906675)

Mike! This ain't Denver!

mooby
11-20-2010, 01:23 AM
Mike Shanahan's November record:
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My source: Mike Shanahan Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ShanMi0.htm)
November Record: 42-21
Head Coach Overall Record: 150-102
Redskins 2010 Record: 4-4

November has started with Mike Shanahan/Redskins and it is very pleasing for me to tell you,it's pretty good.

#1)28% of all his 150 victories as a head coach have come in the Month of November.

#2)Coach Shanny is currently 48 games over .500 as a Head coach. If we were to take every November game away from his total Coaching stats from Wins & Losses...his overall record would be 108--81. That's only 27 games over .500.

#3)Shanny has a 67% chance of winning the game,when the game is played in November

#4)The Redskins have 3 games in the Month of November on their 2010 schedule. The Eagles,@Tennessee and Vikings. So according to Shanny's statistics and what he has done throughout his coaching career....he SHOULD win 2 of those 3 games. Which would give the Skins a 6-5 record to date,if this happens.

It would be very interesting to see Mcnabb November record as well...
GO REDSKINS!!!

Not to be your bubble buster Ace but all of his personal statistics and everything came from his time with Denver, not us. History might give us a better logical prediction for the future, but anything's possible, good or bad.

I'd love to see what Mike Shanny's record after the bye was if this was the week before the Eagles, so you or someone else could bring it up as a sign of hope for the game, but in the end it wouldn't have meant anything, because everything that could go wrong went wrong in that game.

I guess my whole point is that while your optimism is admirable, in the end it doesn't mean much. I respect your points and everything but I really don't believe Mike Shanahan's November record really has anything to do with whether or not we will beat the Titans or Vikings. Hard work, good preparation, the right mix of luck and positive plays, and whether or not we score more points than the other team will be the ultimate determining factors in whether or not we beat the Titans and Vikings.

Pocket$ $traight
11-22-2010, 12:18 AM
The only reason that I gave him a D is that he has built a mentally tough team that doesn't give up. Besides that, if you wrote down the laundry list of ridiculous decisions you would think Mr. Swinging Gate was running things.

Ruhskins
11-22-2010, 12:46 AM
Best insight on MS anywhere!

Thomas Boswell - Mike Shanahan needs to play to Redskins' strengths (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/19/AR2010111902798.html?sid=ST2010111906675)

Mike! This ain't Denver!

I don't understand why we keep getting coaches in this team that constantly play players out of position.

Hayensworth as a 3-4 NT
Orakpo as a 4-3 LB
Landry as a FS
Carter as a 3-4 LB
Etc., etc., etc...

Shadowbyte
12-05-2010, 03:13 PM
Like I said, Shannahan deserves a D, I just wanted to remind those who strangely thought he deserved an A or a B, for what? What has he improved? The worst mistake of the Snyder era.

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