To All The Liberals

The good news is that we can stop any shit Obama was planning to try and do. Lame duck DC is just fine with me.


LOL...don't use phrases whose meanings you don't know. Stick to "common sense" m'kay. Obama has done most of the things he wanted to do in round one and you lost that round a while ago. It's round 2 of a 4 round contest. Let's get it on!

This is one of the most arrogant Pres. we have ever had. Now he is going to India on a trip costing the American tax payers 200 MILLION PER DAY. WTF. The largest trip ever taken by a President. I guess no one told Obama we are out of money. So for his 3 day trip it will cost the tax payers 600 million dollars. Don't bitch to me about the poor or starving kids when he spends money like this and he is probably going to be sitting on Air Force One trying to figure out what just happened.

Did they ever go away?

Seemed to, or maybe the volume just seemed to decrease. Perhaps I just haven't been paying attention.

This is one of the most arrogant Pres. we have ever had. Now he is going to India on a trip costing the American tax payers 200 MILLION PER DAY. WTF. The largest trip ever taken by a President. I guess no one told Obama we are out of money. So for his 3 day trip it will cost the tax payers 600 million dollars. Don't bitch to me about the poor or starving kids when he spends money like this and he is probably going to be sitting on Air Force One trying to figure out what just happened.

200 million dollars a day? LOL...you guys can't even be bothered to make up a credible number?

You got the house big woop...now what? You gonna cut social security? Well no because you told seniors you wouldn't. You're going to cut medicare? Well, no, you told seniors you wouldn't. Are you going to cut defense spending? Are you fcking high? You're going to cut other spending or kill ObamaCare? If you can get anything past the Senate conference more power to you and Obama's veto (as if that's going to be an option).


They over promised and they won't deliver. Buckle up Buck, it's going to be time to play hardball and we got more chips and defense spending bills to attach shit to. Yeeha!

In terms of political strategy (who cares about the f***in country, politics is all that counts), the House is a far better win then the Senate. The House initiates all money bills, so if the Republicans are smart (which they aren't), they can lay out grand scheme plans, and incorporate enough to win maybe 2-3 democratic senators. What this does, is allow them to show they have a plan that works (yeah right) and put the President in the blocking/obstructionist position.

For arguments sake, lets say House Republicans put a plan out that 30 Repub vote no on, but 10 Dem vote yes.

It goes to the Senate, where they get 47 Repub votes and 4 Dem votes.

It comes out of conference with "bi-partisan" support of maybe 15 House Dems and 5 Senate Dems.

Now, if Pres Obama signs it, he gives the Republican party a victory, for leading in the country back to the right direction, but if he vetoes it, and the Senate fails to overturn it due to staunch liberal posturing, then the Republicans can claim that the far left is trying to keep the country on the wrong path.

Far better would be to either
a) lose both the senate and house, and Pres Obama can be the defender of the poor from the big evil conservatives.

Or

b) have won the house, and lost the Senate, where the Republicans would again be seen as the obstructionist party.

In the end

it will all be ssdd.

I have a couple good friends in California, they said it really didnt matter to them, its basically legal anyways.

yeah that's what I've heard too, got a buddie in San Diego and he says it's already so easy to get that nobody really cared about getting prop 19 through.

Another approach of the Republicans (again if they are smart:rolleyes: ) is to put a very biased initial plan out that passes the House with only Republican support. Then once the bashing comes starts, they cede some points, and lose the 20-30 Republican votes in order to gain 10-15 Dem votes, but have be able to claim Bipartisanship and setting aside the extreme elements demands for the better of the country.

Again, none of this speaks to fixing the country's problems, only who is better set up in the political chess match.

In terms of political strategy (who cares about the f***in country, politics is all that counts), the House is a far better win then the Senate. The House initiates all money bills, so if the Republicans are smart (which they aren't), they can lay out grand scheme plans, and incorporate enough to win maybe 2-3 democratic senators. What this does, is allow them to show they have a plan that works (yeah right) and put the President in the blocking/obstructionist position.

For arguments sake, lets say House Republicans put a plan out that 30 Repub vote no on, but 10 Dem vote yes.

It goes to the Senate, where they get 47 Repub votes and 4 Dem votes.

It comes out of conference with "bi-partisan" support of maybe 15 House Dems and 5 Senate Dems.

Now, if Pres Obama signs it, he gives the Republican party a victory, for leading in the country back to the right direction, but if he vetoes it, and the Senate fails to overturn it due to staunch liberal posturing, then the Republicans can claim that the far left is trying to keep the country on the wrong path.

Far better would be to either
a) lose both the senate and house, and Pres Obama can be the defender of the poor from the big evil conservatives.

Or

b) have won the house, and lost the Senate, where the Republicans would again be seen as the obstructionist party.

In the end

it will all be ssdd.


Senate is not important to win but we can hope to pick off Dem senators? Lot's of maybes isn't exactly something to hinge your hopes on. Oh and do remember, Dems in the Senate are more liberal now. You forgot the democrats can also use the filibusterer. It won't see the presidents desk unless it's got all the pork in the world which is always bipartisan.


You will have gridlock until they realize that shit doesn't work and Americans don't like it. It's same game with the same results. You're the puppet and they're the puppet masters.

What we need is a good dictator to sweep everything clean and to make sure the damn trains run on time!

What we need is a good dictator to sweep everything clean and to make sure the damn trains run on time!

And the rent is low.