Redskins-Lions: Best and Worst

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SmootSmack
11-02-2010, 12:22 AM
Worst:

(hat tip to Ruhskins for reminding me to post this): Our 1st Down Offense. Hard to win when you're facing these 2nd down situations: 2nd and 18; 2nd and 8; 2nd and 15; 2nd and 5; 2nd and 20; 2nd and 10; 2nd and 6; 2nd and 18; 2nd and 6; 2nd and 13; 2nd and 2; 2nd and 15; 2nd and 11; 2nd and 4; 2nd and 4; 2nd and 11; 2nd and 13; 2nd and 10..

So that's more than 50% of the time we've essentially gained zero yards or lost yards on first down

I don't know what the league average is, or even really what the Redskins average is but if you're going to give your offense just three downs basically you might as well be playing in the CFL

mooby
11-02-2010, 03:15 AM
Worst:

(hat tip to Ruhskins for reminding me to post this): Our 1st Down Offense. Hard to win when you're facing these 2nd down situations: 2nd and 18; 2nd and 8; 2nd and 15; 2nd and 5; 2nd and 20; 2nd and 10; 2nd and 6; 2nd and 18; 2nd and 6; 2nd and 13; 2nd and 2; 2nd and 15; 2nd and 11; 2nd and 4; 2nd and 4; 2nd and 11; 2nd and 13; 2nd and 10..

So that's more than 50% of the time we've essentially gained zero yards or lost yards on first down

I don't know what the league average is, or even really what the Redskins average is but if you're not going to give your offense just three down basically you might as well be playing in the CFL

Boy, I knew our first down offense had a really bad day after the game, but I had no idea it was that bad. That's horrible. I mean out of those 18 2nd downs, 11 of them were 10 or more yards. Only 4 of those gained at least 5 yards. Atrocious.

MTK
11-02-2010, 09:29 AM
Worst:

(hat tip to Ruhskins for reminding me to post this): Our 1st Down Offense. Hard to win when you're facing these 2nd down situations: 2nd and 18; 2nd and 8; 2nd and 15; 2nd and 5; 2nd and 20; 2nd and 10; 2nd and 6; 2nd and 18; 2nd and 6; 2nd and 13; 2nd and 2; 2nd and 15; 2nd and 11; 2nd and 4; 2nd and 4; 2nd and 11; 2nd and 13; 2nd and 10..

So that's more than 50% of the time we've essentially gained zero yards or lost yards on first down

I don't know what the league average is, or even really what the Redskins average is but if you're going to give your offense just three downs basically you might as well be playing in the CFL

Good post. And those 2nd and longs led to 3rd and longs, so the Lions were able to just pin their ears back and come after McNabb.

hagams
11-02-2010, 11:01 AM
The best from this game, doesn't outway the bad so I'm not going there..

Bad:
- O-line (Kinda feels like last year)
- Coaching: KS's offense may work with a dependable line, solid WR's, and with an
established running game. It's not working here.
- Coaching: The decision to only dress 2 RB's was scary to me. Having Ryan go down was unforseen, but that only left the UFA. He played good, but God forbid something had happened to him. Then what?
- Coaching: Not much max protect after we found out we couldn't block them (the 2nd drive). I only saw 1 screen pass, and I think that would have slowed thier DL play down.

Our team might not be clicking right now, but I think it starts at the top.

30gut
11-02-2010, 03:49 PM
Best:
Anthony Armstrong
Keiland Williams
Worst:
OL/Coaching

GTripp0012
11-02-2010, 03:58 PM
Big difference between our 5 man protections, which can't handle anyone, and our 6 man protections, which are giving McNabb a lot of time.

Sometimes, however, we call a six man protection, and the back and a tackles don't read the stunt together, then the back releases which leaves a free lineman in a bad position. It's at that point I miss Campbell, because he would complete that desperation throw to the back, where McNabb misses or gets sacked putting us in long yardage or forcing a punt.

There's a simple solution, which is to restrict the back from releasing into the pattern. That would fix a lot of our protection problems.

30gut
11-02-2010, 04:07 PM
It's at that point I miss Campbell, because he would complete that desperation throw to the back, where McNabb misses or gets sacked putting us in long yardage or forcing a punt.

People underestimate the efficiency of Zorn/Campbell's passing game last year.
I don't think its a strecth to say that Campbell finished the season as a better quick rhythm WCO short passing/accuracy QB then McNabb at this point.

GTripp0012
11-02-2010, 04:14 PM
People underestimate the efficiency of Zorn/Campbell's passing game last year.I think people DID underestimate it. I'm not so sure they do anymore.

Longtimefan
11-02-2010, 05:09 PM
Best - They actually showed up in Detroit without incident.

Worst - They actually attempted to play.

over the mountain
11-03-2010, 12:07 PM
idk where to put this but . . . .anyone have any word on orakpos injury. it looked pretty serious before they cut to commercial break then said he limped off the field on his own power when they came back.

i was worried at the time, now with all this mcnabb stuff, seems the media and press conf dont even address it.

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