Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

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skinsfan69
11-01-2010, 01:21 PM
It always easy to look good with Brady, for that matter Manning. Both teams are considered the best talent evaluaters in football. Show me how they replace those two, and then I will judge how great they are.

Forget Brady. They got rid of every single old guy on their defense. Now they've got all young guys playing on defense and they've lost one game, and they've got a ton of draft picks. Now look at us... We've got a lot of older guys and we're an average to below average team with no draft picks. Something is really wrong here.

MTK
11-01-2010, 01:24 PM
Talking about New England is just silly. They had several seasons to turn over that defense, and Brady is well established and has a much better OL.

I think people are forgetting the new regime here came in at a tough time where free agency was very limited and we already had limited picks on hand from Vinny.

NYCSkin
11-01-2010, 01:30 PM
If Shanahan wanted to send DM a message there are much much better ways to do it than the way he did. Aside from the fact that he chose to make this "message" during a very winnable game--which is ridiculous--he made a very shortsighted strategic decision vis-a-vis his credibility with the team.
DM is not a rookie or journeyman. Treat him with some respect. And if you diss him--don't then say something even more horseshit like Grossmann gave us a better chance to win in the last two minutes and he can get two plays in at the same time blah blah blah. It's an inconsistent message, it is not concise in its reasoning, and it does nothing to instill confidence.

As a CEO type coach--Shanahan has to project this confidence and be consistent in a concise manner. The three C's of a CEO. All he did yesterday--based on his own reasoning after the game--was diminish his leadership cred tremendously. That is the most damaging thing about the loss yesterday...

LavaRnChad
11-01-2010, 01:35 PM
That's true. A week from today, maybe all the QB conversation will have calmed, and the Cowboys will be 1-7.

If Dallas went 0-16, it still wouldn't make me feel better. Especially that we may very well be in the same places they will be after week 17... AT HOME DURING THE PLAYOFFS. That "Dallas sucks" mentality while we SUCK ALSO is just too funny. I could care less what they are doing.

irish
11-01-2010, 01:39 PM
After sleeping on this the one thing that really bothers me this morning is the message benching McNabb sends to the team. Shanahan has done a great job this year overall, but this one move was a big mistake on his part. He needs to get with Kyle and Donovan over the bye and get this thing fixed. I don't care if they have to modify the offense, just do whatever you've got to do to get everyone on the same page and moving forward... together.

You can see it in everyone's body language out there. McNabb is frustrated, they cut to Kyle and he's frustrated. There's a disconnect somewhere.

While I dont agree with Shanny's decision to bench DM for the last series I do like the fact that Shanny isnt in love with the players no matter their name or how much $ they make. If he thinks you arent getting it done you are out of there and I like that.

MTK
11-01-2010, 01:41 PM
While I dont agree with Shanny's decision to bench DM for the last series I do like the fact that Shanny isnt in love with the players no matter their name or how much $ they make. If he thinks you arent getting it done you are out of there and I like that.

Definitely agree.

Glen Williams
11-01-2010, 01:41 PM
Calm down buddy. The offensive line is to blame.
They need ALOT of work
you cant expect much from a QB that has less than 2 seconds to
get rid of the ball every play.
Kyle and his dad were wrong for taking mcnabb out.
He was our only chance to get down the field for a TD in 2 mins.
Putting in our backup was the stupidest thing we've done all year.
Not only did it ruin our chances of winning the game,
Now the confidence of the team is down
and although Mcnabb is a classy dude and doesnt show his frustration...
I'm sure he's pissed.

Chief X_Phackter
11-01-2010, 01:50 PM
I don't buy the 2 minute thing at all. One season in Houston where he played in 1 game, and we're supposed to believe he's better equipped to handle things over a guy like McNabb with his resume? Good one Shanny but I'm selling that one.

Ditto...I'm not buying that shit at all...so WTF did he do it then?

Longtimefan
11-01-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm just tired of us bringing in all these older guys for draft picks...it's not just McNabb but Brown looks like it was a bad move, so there's more draft picks. When is someone going to come in here and stop trading away picks for old guys??? I was watching the Pats yesterday and the guy that was filling in for Buck said that NE has two 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks in next year's draft and they're playing ALL YOUNG GUYS on defense. I want someone from their front office here....Oh yeah, KC got him and they're now in 1st place in the AFC West.

I certainly agree with your assessment, there are many more who share in your views.

Using the current formula, it's difficult to envision a blueprint for how the team is going to get younger or better.

SolidSnake84
11-01-2010, 01:59 PM
Ditto...I'm not buying that shit at all...so WTF did he do it then?

Maybe he has seen enough of McNabb playing the way he has. Except for the houston game, McNabb has played like absolute shit this season. We lost yesterday because of the INT he threw to triple coverage...

Shanahan is no dummy and he has just seen enough of McNabb. McNabb isn't losing us games, but he really isnt the reason we are winning them either.

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