Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

I don't love the move, but I DO love that EVERYONE is accountable. There are no sacred cows on this team. Isn't this the exact opposite of the situation in Dallas?

That is a really good analysis by Peter King. Overall, my perception of the whole "benching" thing is that none of us really know enough information to make an informed analysis of whether Shanahan was right or wrong. Without overwhelming evidence suggesting a judgmental error, I'm going to assume that he had good reasons for such a shocking move.

And for the record, I still am not buying into this whole "Shanahan ego" thing. He's the head coach. He can't let himself be pushed around. You can argue whether Haynesworth should have played against Indy, and that the McNabb benching cost us the game (which it didn't, our OL was terrible), but I would much rather "give up" a couple games in the short term if it maintains the players' respect and enforces discipline for the rest of Shanahan's time in Washington.

It's easy to blame the coach, but I have confidence in what Shanahan is doing. He's the only HC that has looked like he has a plan in over a decade.

After reading some stuff around the net, including King's MMQB, I've realized maybe we should question whether McNabb has worked hard enough in learning this offense. Is that the possible message that Shanahan sent out yesterday?

Is it possible that he's calling him out on his work ethic?I think that they just believe that Grossman is a lot better than he is. Therefore, it was a strategic alternative to replace an ineffective McNabb with a sound backup in Rex Grossman.

Rex Grossman, of course, is the kind of player that helps your roster look good on paper, but isn't actually valuable to the team in a backup role where he has to play. Sort of like Jon Kitna.

After reading some stuff around the net, including King's MMQB, I've realized maybe we should question whether McNabb has worked hard enough in learning this offense. Is that the possible message that Shanahan sent out yesterday?

Is it possible that he's calling him out on his work ethic?

I don't think you wait until the 2 minute warning to decide and send a msg to your QB. I just think it was a poor decision.

I think that they just believe that Grossman is a lot better than he is. Therefore, it was a strategic alternative to replace an ineffective McNabb with a sound backup in Rex Grossman.

Rex Grossman, of course, is the kind of player that helps your roster look good on paper, but isn't actually valuable to the team in a backup role where he has to play. Sort of like Jon Kitna.

So do you buy Shanahan's reasoning that Grossman knows the 2 minute offense better?

Not that I support the benching of McNabb but our offense only scored 19 points today. The other 6 came from Banks. On top of that last week we only managed 10 points though it should have been 13 (still way below what the numbers we should be putting up). Red Zone offense and 3rd down conversions is in need of a huge overhaul. And before you blame the receivers remember we have two guys playing at a pro bowl level. Thats two more then a lot of teams out there.

Yeah I realize that, but who knows how the other 16 teams got their points. Those teams' points could have come from units other than offense, so for comparison, we must look at the team total. It's a team effort and 25 points is enough to win the majority of games. It doesn't mean everything, but it means something. So, take it for what it's worth.

Yeah, McNabb can do better, but 210/1/1 (and 45 yards rushing) should be enough to win a game.

Our D wasn't so hot either. I think it was just a bad game all round. I also think Shanny showed some frustration. The bye will do us good.

What is nice to see is that we do have some real talent out there. Home grown regular guys that are playing way above expectations. We need more of that from some of the others.

So do you buy Shanahan's reasoning that Grossman knows the 2 minute offense better?


I willing to bet in this offense KS's from Houston Grossman knows it better then McNabb.

I think this sends a horrible message to the team, Matty. Yeah, Shanny pulled Mac because he was stinking up the joint, but this has been an ongoing narrative with Shanny, which is more troubling than the fact that McNabb got yanked; that Shanahan is in charge, no questions asked. I get that the head coach is the leader and that the Redskins were in need of a culture change, but is this the change we wanted?

Just to be clear, I'm taking Shanahan over Zorn everyday of the week. Still I have my questions. How did Jim Zorn get more out of Fred Davis, serious talent, than Mike Shanahan? How did Jim Zorn get more production, albeit not very much, out of Devin Thomas than the vaunted Shanahan offensive system? For all the talk about the offensive line being worse off last year than this year, man, I don't know about that either. Save Trent Williams, it looks like we've taken a step backwards.

Shanahan took a huge risk by alienating his franchise quarterback and undermining future contract negotiations. Donovan looked off yesterday, in fact he's looked off the past three weeks. My biggest fear is that this may breach the relationship and that we're about to see yet another second round pick and the next 3-4 years flushed down the toilet.

By the way, Kyle Shanahan has been underwhelming thus far.

I think this sends a horrible message to the team, Matty. Yeah, Shanny pulled Mac because he was stinking up the joint, but this has been an ongoing narrative with Shanny, which is more troubling than the fact that McNabb got yanked; that Shanahan is in charge, no questions asked. I get that the head coach is the leader and that the Redskins were in need of a culture change, but is this the change we wanted?

Just to be clear, I'm taking Shanahan over Zorn everyday of the week. Still I have my questions. How did Jim Zorn get more out of Fred Davis, serious talent, than Mike Shanahan? How did Jim Zorn get more production, albeit not very much, out of Devin Thomas than the vaunted Shanahan offensive system? For all the talk about the offensive line being worse off last year than this year, man, I don't know about that either. Save Trent Williams, it looks like we've taken a step backwards.

Shanahan took a huge risk by alienating his franchise quarterback and undermining future contract negotiations. Donovan looked off yesterday, in fact he's looked off the past three weeks. My biggest fear is that this may breach the relationship and that we're about to see yet another second round pick and the next 3-4 years flushed down the toilet.

By the way, Kyle Shanahan has been underwhelming thus far.

I have never liked the fact that his son is running the O or anypart of the team for that matter. How the hell do you fire your son if they suck at their job?