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Chief X_Phackter 11-01-2010, 05:36 AM Not really words of encouragement for McNabb when Shanahan says Grossman understands the offense better, is better In the 2 minute and gave the team a better chance to win. Still think McNabb starts though
Yeah, what is that?
If Grossman understands the offense better, is better in the two minute offense and gives the team a better chance to win...how do you say that in public and still go with McNabb?
I'm sure McNabb is still the starter, assuming he still wants to, but I just don't understand it at all.
Someone help me out.
Dirtbag59 11-01-2010, 07:18 AM 17/30, 210 pass yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 45 rush yards, and we scored 2 fewer points than our highest total of the season (27), but people still want to blame McNabb.
I know stats don't tell the whole story, but give me a break -- we scored 25 points under the most awful conditions WITH McNabb running the offense. We scored more points than 16 other teams that played today, and our 25 points would have been enough to win 6 of the 11 other games that were played today. Take it for what it's worth.
Not that I support the benching of McNabb but our offense only scored 19 points today. The other 6 came from Banks. On top of that last week we only managed 10 points though it should have been 13 (still way below what the numbers we should be putting up). Red Zone offense and 3rd down conversions is in need of a huge overhaul. And before you blame the receivers remember we have two guys playing at a pro bowl level. Thats two more then a lot of teams out there.
12thMan 11-01-2010, 07:48 AM I'm really starting to dislike Shanahan. Well, I his pressers rub me the wrong the way. Why would an NFL coach stand up there and feed us a bunch of bullsh*t about Rex knowing the two minute drill better!? C'mon man, I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday! Just say that Mac was have a bad day, he was throwing a stinker, and you wanted to jump start the team. Damn, why is that so damn hard!
They're calling Shanny, Zornahan on the radio this morning!
Chief X_Phackter 11-01-2010, 07:53 AM Agree, that is ridiculous.
KLHJ2 11-01-2010, 07:54 AM This is why I got to stay away from gameday threads, all gloom and doom and some of the the most negative knee jerk reactions. Sometimes I think that the guys that post on here are the same people that walk around the city wearing signs that read "The End is Near".
As far as McNabb is concerned I disagree with his benching. He made many big plays despite getting planted every time he dropped back. That D-line was just too much for us to handle. Grossman may understand the 2 minute drill a bit better but behind that line there was no way that the execution was going to be there.
As far as the game overall. Detroit is an up an comming team, they outplayed us and the better team won. If they can get that ground game going and with a little luck they can have a winning season.
Chief X_Phackter 11-01-2010, 08:15 AM Right.
McNabb isn't done (he will be soon if that O-line doesn't get it together)
and...
He isn't the reason for the loss.
The thread title is knee-jerkish. The benching of McNabb in that scenario is almost like the swinging gate call...almost. Didn't make much sense at all, and after all the explanations it still doesn't.
44ever 11-01-2010, 09:03 AM I'm really starting to dislike Shanahan. Well, I his pressers rub me the wrong the way. Why would an NFL coach stand up there and feed us a bunch of bullsh*t about Rex knowing the two minute drill better!? C'mon man, I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday! Just say that Mac was have a bad day, he was throwing a stinker, and you wanted to jump start the team. Damn, why is that so damn hard!
They're calling Shanny, Zornahan on the radio this morning!
Best post in the thread bro! And I am feeling the same way. Im sure McNabb is also starting to lose his confidence in Shanny. Between putting McNabb and AH on the bench, he has shown he can cut off his nose to spite his face.
He can't scare these guys into playing better foootball. Are we a work in progress or did Shanny actually think he is the saviour and would bring instant perfection?
Benching McNabb was a big mistake!!!! for many reasons. Everyone is confused over this decision.
Big C 11-01-2010, 09:13 AM shannahan is pissing me off too. it would have been one thing to go into the bye week at 4-4, i can tolerate that. but now we have this bullshit controversy going on about mcnabb, hes probably divided the locker room somewhat and caused all sorts of problems within the team. unecessary. that is unacceptable. this situation makes me feel bad for mcnabb and i think that the players and many fans (myself included) will support him even more and rally around him. hell, maybe that was shannahan's goal all along, to motivate. and if it was, i still hate it. i want donovan here next year.
KLHJ2 11-01-2010, 09:33 AM Speaking of Shanny he did 4 things yesterday that pissed me off which broke my own coaching philosophies. I swear I was cussing at the screen when he did each of these. This is not a hindsight thing.
1 & 2. Never chase points trying to go for a 2 point conversion when in the lead. Points become valuable. Going for 2 to force overtime is OK but chasing points when in the lead is silly. Kicking the extra point it is almost always guarenteed. Being up by 6 is better than being up by 5.
3. There was still more than 2 minutes left on the clock and we still had 2 time outs. Don't go for it on 4th and long deep in our own territory. Punt the ball and give your defense and special teams an opportunity to get you the ball back with some better field position.
4. Don't pull your top offensive weapon with the game on the line.
Dogtag 11-01-2010, 09:42 AM Pulling McNabb for Grossman in the last two minutes ... that was the equivalent of the SWINGING GATE play.
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