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GusFrerotte 10-31-2010, 09:39 PM That is a lot to gleen from a staff you have never met, people you don't know and a game I presume you have never participated in at the pro level?
based on one....arbitrary act??
He isn't so far off the mark or off the wall. The best coaches are the ones who can adapt their system to the players he has to work with and utilize there strengths in the best possible manner. Maybe Kyle isn't doing that as much as he could.
That is a lot to gleen from a staff you have never met, people you don't know and a game I presume you have never participated in at the pro level?
based on one....arbitrary act??
Well said
He isn't so far off the mark or off the wall. The best coaches are the ones who can adapt their system to the players he has to work with and utilize there strengths in the best possible manner. Maybe Kyle isn't doing that as much as he could.
Actually I think it is complete nonsense. He makes about 48 assumptions on an act that more likely was made "looking for a spark" (as has been mentioned), or to get DM's attention.
Dude is getting sloppy. AND that DOES NOT mean I think DM lost the game for us.
Indicting the coaching staff based on this stuff......is childish.
firstdown 10-31-2010, 09:53 PM I will never forget this statement from Joe Theismann
"As a NFL QB you don't have to be the reason your team won the game, but you damm sure can't be the reason your team lost the game"
And Mcnabb was the reason
Your football ignorance is really showing or your drunk.
12thMan 10-31-2010, 10:23 PM The fact is Shanahan has been doing it with smoke and mirrors all season long. When it worked, it appeared as though we had some sleepers [on the roster] who might be keepers. When it didn't, particularly along the offensive line and at wide receiver, those deficiencies were glaring and obvious.
This Redskins team have one legitimate starting caliber lineman along the offensive front, and that's Trent Williams. The rest of the bums are probably back-ups on most, if not all, NFL rosters. Every single one of them.
From a fan's perspective, the question is has Shanahan and Co. done everything in their power to put this team in the best position to compete and win? On most days, the answer is probably yes. But there have been some head scratchers in terms of personnel decisions along the way: The Haynesworth love hate game. Devin Thomas, if not a bona-fide threat, certainly a physical talent being released in favor of a cadre of training camp rejects. Then benching and de-activating Derrick Dockery in favor of Lichensteiger (or whatever the hell is name is), for what appears to be Dockery either not grasping or fitting the system properly. Sure Derrick Dockery is no Pro-Bowler but, really, you don't even suit up Dockery for the game as you watch the Lions pin McNabb to the turf every other play? The coaches obviously knows what's best, but have some of these moves and decisions come at the expense of fielding the best 53? Truth is we may never really know the answer to that question, but it's a question that must be asked nonetheless.
Thus far this season has come down to some gutsy performances by a very inconsistent, and at times struggling, Donovan McNabb and a handful of all star, individual performances. In other words, the coaching staff, while dramitically better than last year's version, has rarely outcoached the other side this year. It's been all left up to the talent on the field.
Big C 10-31-2010, 10:28 PM i really wish that dockery would get back in the starting lineup. cant be much worse than what we already have. also, rabach is killing us. stepping on mcnabb 2 times, lots of holding calls, getting overpowered, etc.
mcnabb didnt play a great game, but the o-line and dumb penalties lost us this game (offsides on the field goal attempt, instead of 3 they got 7)
Yeah that penalty on the FG was killer. We had too many shoot ourselves in the foot type plays. Eventually they become too tough to overcome.
rbanerjee23 10-31-2010, 10:37 PM I'm amazed they kept Rabach...that guy is so past his prime it's absurd. Trent Williams did okay, probably not his best day, but an average performance. But compared to the rest of the line he is a pro-bowler.
OL still has to be fixed. Is that really big news? But we have to keep things in perspective, we started over this past offseason so it is going to take a year or two to become decent. Hopefully we learn something from this debacle and continue to improve.
NYCSkin 10-31-2010, 10:38 PM That is a lot to gleen from a staff you have never met, people you don't know and a game I presume you have never participated in at the pro level?
based on one....arbitrary act??
That's what most folks do on forums like this--opine on things that they likely have not done, on people they have not met. If the forum was confined to those who meet the coaches and play the game then I imagine it would be a pretty silent forum.
And it was NOT an arbitrary act. Quite the contrary--Shanahan explained his deliberate reasoning behind it. Which I disagree with. Why do I disagree with it? Because McNabb has offered me evidence of his abilities over the past 12 years as has Grossman over his career. Coupled with the fact that Grossman was cold and the fact that a decision like this typically confuses a team (which many of the Skins' postgame comments seem to already hint to)--this leads me to form my opinion.
But what do I know. I didn't play or coach football. Just like Todd Haley...
BleedBurgundy 10-31-2010, 10:44 PM Hate to use an old warpath-cliche but "Was McNabb responsible for covering megatron?" I have not been impressed with D Mac this year, and I thought he looked horrendous. But... there's not a qb in the league that can play well with the kind of pressure #5 faced today. If i were mike shanahan, each of our interior linemen would be taking a bus home, wouldn't even allow them on the team plane.
If Shanahan wants to switch to Rex, I'm ok with it, but I think the timing of the move was very odd. Last two minutes, with a chance to win is not the time to do make that call. When you factor in that we are heading into a bye week... makes no sense. I really don't like the "Grossman knows the 2 minute offense better than McNabb" excuse either, if anything, the playbook is thinner running the 2 minute drill...
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