Albert Haynesworth and Mike Shanahan: An unlikely win-win situation?

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saden1
10-29-2010, 02:20 AM
That SOB is 6-6 and 335lbs. Don't anybody fcking dare tell me he can't play nose tackle. He can play it, and be the best at it...he just doesn't want to. What puzzles me even more is the fact that he doesn't want to get double teamed as NT but as a DT he almost always gets double teamed. He is one of the most selfish player in the game...he could have been a hall of famer.

JoeRedskin
10-29-2010, 06:46 AM
Does anyone doubt that. if Kedric Golston or Lorenzo Alexander had AH's physical abilities (including his "instincts"), not only would they play NT they would be All-Pro's at the position? AH ain't worth what he's been paid and is a selfish player.

W/ that said, I am all for whatever ends the drama and lets everyone move on.

MTK
10-29-2010, 09:46 AM
That SOB is 6-6 and 335lbs. Don't anybody fcking dare tell me he can't play nose tackle. He can play it, and be the best at it...he just doesn't want to. What puzzles me even more is the fact that he doesn't want to get double teamed as NT but as a DT he almost always gets double teamed. He is one of the most selfish player in the game...he could have been a hall of famer.

I don't think it's a stretch to say a player isn't cut out for a certain position and/or scheme.

And if he was truly the most selfish player in the game, wouldn't he be demanding to be the starter? A guy that's willing to help the team and admit he's not the best choice for a position doesn't strike me as selfish.

Of course it may have helped if he was here for all the offseason work, but for now this is a pretty good solution for both sides as he continues to get up to speed at the nose.

Monkeydad
10-29-2010, 10:33 AM
I don't have to paint, he's doing a fine job painting a hideous self-portrait. Being a nose tackle doesn't mean you can't rush the QB. Look at Jay Ratliff of the Cowboys or any decent nose tackle in the league...they are getting after the QB as much as a 4/3 tackle.

It's real clear to me that that SOB doesn't want to try and with his loser talk of "I can't" or "I can only play nickel" he pretty much said as much. The mark of a great player is the ability to adapt and they don't have the words "I can't" in their vocabulary. Again, fck him...I hope he chokes on a hot dog.

I think we've found someone less mature than Haynesworth!

SmootSmack
10-29-2010, 11:04 AM
I'm not sure what to make of Haynesworth really. But it seems to me like his biggest concern has always been that as a NT he has to sacrifice certain stats, namely sacks. Like it doesn't matter if playing NT gives say Orakpo room to roam and adds 5 more sacks to Orakpo's stat sheet but that Haynesworth isn't getting those 5 stats. So AH would rather come off the bench as a pass rusher and get those 5 sacks himself. I'm guessing he wouldn't be as keen to come off the bench if it was to clog the middle

Hog1
10-29-2010, 11:28 AM
Well....at the least perhaps we can use him in a positive way for the remainder of this season and showcase his talents for a useful offseason trade?
Who knows.....maybe he likes it and begins to make a statement, becomes a great TEAM player, great locker room guy............
and maybe I win the Lottery three times and spend the weekend with Scarlett Johansson.......
Maybe a nice offseason trade?

JoeRedskin
10-29-2010, 11:33 AM
I'm not sure what to make of Haynesworth really. But it seems to me like his biggest concern has always been that as a NT he has to sacrifice certain stats, namely sacks. Like it doesn't matter if playing NT gives say Orakpo room to roam and adds 5 more sacks to Orakpo's stat sheet but that Haynesworth isn't getting those 5 stats. So AH would rather come off the bench as a pass rusher and get those 5 sacks himself. I'm guessing he wouldn't be as keen to come off the bench if it was to clog the middle

^^ This. I see no evidence that AH is trying to "get up to speed" on playing the nose. His comment that someone else is better at playing it was not conditioned by a "for now" or "until I show the coaches I am can play it better". AH wants his stats, wants to play his way. If, to do that, he is happy sitting on the bench, and the coach's are happy to have him sit there, fine.

Is he ever going to be an All-Pro that way? Nope. Could he be one if he worked hard at learning the new position and being willing to do what the coaches told him to do? Yup. Could he really improve the team by sacrificing stats? Yup. Is he willing to do those things? Nope.

Again, Shanny and he have reached a mutual peace (I guess) and now we can just (hopefully) move past the drama.

Lotus
10-29-2010, 11:36 AM
Well....at the least perhaps we can use him in a positive way for the remainder of this season and showcase his talents for a useful offseason trade?
Who knows.....maybe he likes it and begins to make a statement, becomes a great TEAM player, great locker room guy............
and maybe I win the Lottery three times and spend the weekend with Scarlett Johansson.......
Maybe a nice offseason trade?

Let's hope so. He makes too much to just be a nickel pass rusher, so unless things change I can't see him sticking around at season's end.

saden1
10-29-2010, 11:42 AM
I don't think it's a stretch to say a player isn't cut out for a certain position and/or scheme.

And if he was truly the most selfish player in the game, wouldn't he be demanding to be the starter? A guy that's willing to help the team and admit he's not the best choice for a position doesn't strike me as selfish.

Of course it may have helped if he was here for all the offseason work, but for now this is a pretty good solution for both sides as he continues to get up to speed at the nose.

That's BS...most player don't wants to play nose tackle and you've heard this many times in the league in the past. Playing nose tackle doesn't take a genius...they just want to get at the QB.

London Fletcher said he's selfish. I'm sure there's a more selfish player out there in the NFL but I can't think of one right now....he's definitely the highest paid selfish player. It's nice to not show up for the off-season practices and then claim to be not good enough to play nose tackle collecting major money.

MTK
10-29-2010, 11:43 AM
^^ This. I see no evidence that AH is trying to "get up to speed" on playing the nose. His comment that someone else is better at playing it was not conditioned by a "for now" or "until I show the coaches I am can play it better". AH wants his stats, wants to play his way. If, to do that, he is happy sitting on the bench, and the coach's are happy to have him sit there, fine.

Is he ever going to be an All-Pro that way? Nope. Could he be one if he worked hard at learning the new position and being willing to do what the coaches told him to do? Yup. Could he really improve the team by sacrificing stats? Yup. Is he willing to do those things? Nope.

Again, Shanny and he have reached a mutual peace (I guess) and now we can just (hopefully) move past the drama.

He's still taking snaps in practice at the nose, and Haslett is still convinced that he can play there.

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