Early Vegas Line: Lions favored by 2

Lions are rested, off a bye also... this is going to be a tough game.

Oh Sh!t I didn't even realize that they had a bye...that just makes me even more nervous about this game

I actually feel better with Stafford in there vs. Shaun Hill. Stafford is bound to be rusty coming back from injury. Hill is also more mobile and was a scrambling threat.

That is exactly what I was going to say Matty. After doing some investigatory journalism:

I actually feel better with Stafford in there vs. Shaun Hill. Stafford is bound to be rusty coming back from injury. Hill is also more mobile and was a scrambling threat.

That is exactly what I was going to say Matty. After doing some investigatory journalism:

Matthew Stafford
Year-09 Team-SF GMS-10 TD-13 INT-20 Fumbles-4 QB Rating-61.0

Shaun Hill
Year-07 Team-SF GMS-3 TD-5 INT-1 Fumbles-2 QB Rating-101.3
Year-08 Team-SF GMS-9 TD-13 INT-8 Fumbles-4 QB Rating-87.5
Year-09 Team-SF GMS-6 TD-5 INT-2 Fumbles-3 QB Rating-79.6
Year-10 Team-DET GMS-6 TD-9 INT-7 Fumbles-1 QB Rating-79.6


Number can lie but only so much. Seems like Hill might be a better option right now for the Lionesses. However, I am not saying Stafford will not be better in the future, just not right now. He is essentially a rookie coming off of a 6 week injured stint so I see him as being very rusty and I think this can be played to our advantage. Yes he does have a cannon for an arm, but I like our chances. The who Hill/Stafford debate is a moot point anyway as Shaun Hill has a broken forearm and is not going to be able to suit up.

By the way, not all talking heads think the Lions will win this one: NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Playbook picks: Could Bills get first win? « (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/10/27/playbook-picks-could-bills-get-first-win/?module=HP_headlines)

That is exactly what I was going to say Matty. After doing some investigatory journalism:



That is exactly what I was going to say Matty. After doing some investigatory journalism:

Matthew Stafford
Year-09 Team-SF GMS-10 TD-13 INT-20 Fumbles-4 QB Rating-61.0

Shaun Hill
Year-07 Team-SF GMS-3 TD-5 INT-1 Fumbles-2 QB Rating-101.3
Year-08 Team-SF GMS-9 TD-13 INT-8 Fumbles-4 QB Rating-87.5
Year-09 Team-SF GMS-6 TD-5 INT-2 Fumbles-3 QB Rating-79.6
Year-10 Team-DET GMS-6 TD-9 INT-7 Fumbles-1 QB Rating-79.6


Number can lie but only so much. Seems like Hill might be a better option right now for the Lionesses. However, I am not saying Stafford will not be better in the future, just not right now. He is essentially a rookie coming off of a 6 week injured stint so I see him as being very rusty and I think this can be played to our advantage. Yes he does have a cannon for an arm, but I like our chances. The who Hill/Stafford debate is a moot point anyway as Shaun Hill has a broken forearm and is not going to be able to suit up.I'd say that grabbing Stafford's rookie stats aren't going to do very much to tell you what Stafford is going to play like. It'd be much safer and smarter to take Shaun Hill's 2010 line, the QB rating of 79.6, and plug that in for Stafford.

We don't really know what Stafford can accomplish in excess of that, perhaps nothing, but that would be the level of expectation for Stafford's play over the second half of the year, given that Hill was no. 2 on the depth chart there in camp.

Also Stafford as a true Rook, totally outplayed JC. Now DM is better than JC, but his stats aren't really DM like this season.

The Lions are good despite their record. They could just as easily be 5-1. Let's not forget how they rolled the Rams who rolled us not too long ago. I have a really bad feeling about this game...our offense better come to play!

I'll say this, I do think the Lions are a better football team than the Bears, despite their record. This is a game I still think we *should* win, but as I've said many times in this thread already, I wouldn't be shocked if we lost... I agree with Matty as well, I think I'd rather have Stafford in there, during his first game back. Shaun Hill was on a pretty nice roll before he got hurt against NY... and I agree that Stafford might have some rust on the way back. We'll see though. Does anyone really remember what went wrong last year? I mean obviously we were 4-12 and a bad team overall...but in this game specifically, why did we lose?

If Stafford has a rough start you can bet your ass he will be pulled.

I'll say this, I do think the Lions are a better football team than the Bears, despite their record. This is a game I still think we *should* win, but as I've said many times in this thread already, I wouldn't be shocked if we lost... I agree with Matty as well, I think I'd rather have Stafford in there, during his first game back. Shaun Hill was on a pretty nice roll before he got hurt against NY... and I agree that Stafford might have some rust on the way back. We'll see though. Does anyone really remember what went wrong last year? I mean obviously we were 4-12 and a bad team overall...but in this game specifically, why did we lose?

We didn't have a QB, a running game or a coach worth a damn. Besides that we couldn't convert a 3rd down or stop it...Oh and we had piss poor time management.

We didn't have a QB, a running game or a coach worth a damn. Besides that we couldn't convert a 3rd down or stop it...Oh and we had piss poor time management.

Ha I just watched the highlights on youtube .... remember when we stopped the Lions on 3rd down from the 35, and instead of forcing them to kick a 53 yard field goal, we pushed them back on a penalty, only to have them score a TD? Zorn was the best.