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Redskins_P
11-29-2004, 10:12 AM
We definitely could use an upgrade at center. I thought Raymer was pretty good, but so far he's played like crap.....

MTK
11-29-2004, 10:46 AM
Raymer would be best suited in a backup role at this point in his career.

celts32
11-29-2004, 11:19 AM
Samuels is not the player we expected him to be, but he is still very good. He does not compare to Ogden now or Jacoby & Lachey from the past. However, he also plays one of the hardest positions in football to fill. So before you cast him aside you better know who you are lining up at LT next year. And switching Jansen to LT is not the answer. You don't take a guy who is great at RT and then just move him to LT and expect things to go smoothly.

I think most of the Redskins offensive problems are that these Redskins do not have the dominating offensive Line that Gibbs old teams had. Gibbs won in the past with decent QB's and RB's combined with dominating offensive line play. The best way to start building that O-Line is by having Jansen & Samuels in that line. This line needs time to meld together not another offseason of shuffling the deck in hopes of drawing out Ace's.

Redskins_P
11-29-2004, 11:47 AM
We already have a Samuels thread, but what about Gardner? He had at least 3 drops again yesterday. It's unbelievable how inconsistent this guy is. At the beginning of the season I was all about keeping Gardner and giving him a chance to prove that he can be a legitimate #2. But he simply can't.


Frank Herzog said yesterday that our receivers are too slow and they have a hard time getting seperation from the DB's. And on top of that they drop 50% of the balls thrown at them. I hate to say it, but I tend to agree with his assesment. LC, and Jacobs are the only "speed" guys we have. I wouldn't be against us drafting a big, fast receiver in 2005.

That Guy
11-29-2004, 12:05 PM
LC is no longer a speed guy, he's MUCH slower than the guy we had pre-injury... he needs the surgery, otherwise he'd really be better off as a #2...

That Guy
11-29-2004, 12:30 PM
maybe try out portis as our #1 WR? he's fast and can break tackles... and he doesn't drop any more than anyone else...

cpayne5
11-29-2004, 01:36 PM
I want to see Sean Taylor line up as WR. I'd like to see it during a game we play Denver. ;)

celts32
11-30-2004, 10:46 AM
We need to draft a true #1 WR this April. Then get rid of stone hands Gardner and let Coles be the #2. Coles will funtion much better as a #2 WR. The only problem there is that we payed Coles like he's Randy Moss so that could be a cap killer to have to bring in another high priced WR becasue we were wrong on Coles. Either way these WR's are clearly not good enough to take us where we want to go.

cpayne5
11-30-2004, 12:28 PM
In no way were we wrong on Coles. Did you even see his first 5 games last year? He was a legitimate playmaker. Then he got hurt. He hasn't been the same since. To say we were wrong about his skills because of an unfortunate injury (after the fact) is utterly rediculous.

LongTimeSkinsFan
11-30-2004, 12:41 PM
We need to draft a true #1 WR this April. Then get rid of stone hands Gardner and let Coles be the #2. Coles will funtion much better as a #2 WR. The only problem there is that we payed Coles like he's Randy Moss so that could be a cap killer to have to bring in another high priced WR becasue we were wrong on Coles. Either way these WR's are clearly not good enough to take us where we want to go.
Apply that logic to everyone that has gotten injured and either played hurt or has been sitting out games (see Jansen, Jon; Arrington, Lavar; Barrows, Michael; Smoot, Fred; Daniels, Phillip; Bowen, Matt; Hall, John; etc.) then we'd be wrong about half of the team! We weren't wrong about Coles but when people get hurt, they get hurt. I can't help but think that if you take away the injuries (especially the one to Jansen) and have PR starting at QB say around game 5 or 6 we have a completely different season.

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