DT now a Panther

Bob Slater, Tory Nixon, Walter Murray, Wally Kleine, Raphel Cherry, Carl Powell, Andre Johnson (granted he was post Gibbs 1 but during Casserly)...
Wally Kleine?? Not exactly household names are they?

Bob Slater, Tory Nixon, Walter Murray, Wally Kleine, Raphel Cherry, Carl Powell, Andre Johnson (granted he was post Gibbs 1 but during Casserly)...

I think people forget how bad Casserly was. Go back and look at the #1 draft choices from 1993-1998. He hit with Champ Bailey, had some success with Kenard Lang, but aside from that Casserly whiffed quite often. And while Gibbs called the shots from the '89 season on, Charlie had a hand in the selection of Bobby Wilson and Desmond Howard too.

He was good with the old Plan B free agents, but his drafts were often horrid.

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I think people forget how bad Casserly was. Go back and look at the #1 draft choices from 1993-1998. He hit with Champ Bailey, had some success with Kenard Lang, but aside from that Casserly whiffed quite often. And while Gibbs called the shots from the '89 season on, Charlie had a hand in the selection of Bobby Wilson and Desmond Howard too.

He was good with the old Plan B free agents, but his drafts were often horrid.

You can put Norv in there too. He was the one that wanted Shuler. Everyone was to blame including Gibbs who said Howard had "no weaknesses". And Shuler didn't even play in a pro offense in college. Worst pick ever besides Leaf and Russell. Say what you want about Charley but he left Snyder with a playoff team.

I have a perfect example of how a scheme and how a guy is used is HUGE for receivers...

Brandon Lloyd.

What an insane year he is having... ridiculous thus far... :eek:

You don't know that. Maybe BL has grown up and is actually trying to be a better player and it has nothing to do with what scheme he is in. We all knew he had talent but it seemed he never really tried and I'm guessing thats wht has changed. The whole BL example is kind of getting old because its a poor example at best.

DT is going to a good situation for him. A rebuilding project. If he would've went to NE they would've cut him within 3 weeks.

I think people forget how bad Casserly was. Go back and look at the #1 draft choices from 1993-1998. He hit with Champ Bailey, had some success with Kenard Lang, but aside from that Casserly whiffed quite often. And while Gibbs called the shots from the '89 season on, Charlie had a hand in the selection of Bobby Wilson and Desmond Howard too.

He was good with the old Plan B free agents, but his drafts were often horrid.Casserly's Plan B free agent signings were a significant factor in the '91 Super Bowl season. Perhaps his greatest draft was his last as a GM for Houston in 2006. He netted 4 strong starters (DE Mario Williams, LB DeMeco Ryans, OT Eric Winston, and TE Owen Daniels). He deserves credit for resisting the temptation to draft Reggie Bush or Vince Young over Williams, who clearly turned out to be the best player from that draft.

Wally Kleine?? Not exactly household names are they?

Exactly.

You can put Norv in there too. He was the one that wanted Shuler. Everyone was to blame including Gibbs who said Howard had "no weaknesses". And Shuler didn't even play in a pro offense in college. Worst pick ever besides Leaf and Russell. Say what you want about Charley but he left Snyder with a playoff team.Casserly also stockpiled three first round draft picks after the 1999 Division Championship season. After trading two of those to move up the board, the Skins drafted Arrington and Samuels at #2 and #3 overall, both very solid when you consider that Courtney Brown went #1 and Peter Warrick went #4.

People really need to stop questioning the coaching decisions of letting players go..
It truly is a crap shoot on what they will do...

Point in fact...
Cartwright had a key block punt for a Safety for the raiders win against the chargers...

Betts had a key fumble returned for a TD,that cost the saints the game against Arizona...
See?

Devin Thomas may be great or maybe not....

What we do know is Armstrong is a Player now,making key TD saving gam winners...
And Banks is faster than the Flash and will break a return for a TD that will save our ass at least once this season. You wait!

Thomas will continue his career with Fantasia as he learns the System under John Fox,only to see John Fox fired at the end of the season and having to learn a new system that he may or may not have the time to dedicate himself with...

i like our direction and what Shanny is doing here...