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44ever 10-04-2010, 09:57 PM I'm actually really excited to see what Ryan Torrain can do, if he starts this week. Portis' best days are clearly behind him.
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He says he heard his groin "pop"! I've never heard of that. How does your groin "pop"?
The thought of.......any Reproductive device....popping is....bothersome.
AND if I ever hear that in association with myself, one can only assume drinking would follow........
Ruhskins 10-04-2010, 11:52 PM I would hate to have to trade for another RB. I think the Iggles game showed what a good RB tandem can do for our team (see Thomas Jones/Shonn Greene last year).
skinsnut 10-05-2010, 07:35 AM I dont understand the hate for Portis either...
The guy has stellar blocking skills and has shown a burst this year.
We had 3 over the hill backs on the squad and Torrain didn't even make the squad.
Even though I thought Torrain would have made the initial cut, I don't trust that he can be a starter in this league....I wish it...but wishing doesn't make it true...and a good GM should never put his trust in a wish. If Portis is seriously injured....we may be forced to make a trade for a decent back...because everyone knows....without Portis, we don't have a starting quality back.
I didn't see the first quarter...so I must be missing all the glory you guys are dumping on Torrain...what I saw was a back that didn't know when to turn upfield and make something out of nothing..and I really dont know if I'd get excited over 1 quarter of work when no team has game planned for you yet. I bet Portis would have done great this year if the blocking was there...that is the real issue...this team has only had 1 game with decent rushing numbers so far...so don't think the situation is resolved.
I like the idea of trading DT for a good back if needed.
And as for Gibbs ruining Portis...that's BS...he a RB...you run him till his tongue falls out when all you have is a running game....then you get a new one.
Remember...he got us to the playoffs twice. At least Gibbs USED all his talent...
Is it better overutilize your talent or underutilize it?
The current coaching staff has been a bit guilty of the latter.
SolidSnake84 10-05-2010, 07:56 AM This should be the end of the road for Portis. Everybody knew because of his declining production plus his huge bloated salary, that this was his last season.
Torain is ready to step into his role this season and should be our feature back next season. CP could stay here as a 3rd down back if he agreed to a salary cut (which he wouldnt, and if he got healthy.
But i think more likely the redskins let him go for a low draft pick 4th round pick, or something like that. I see a release possibly, if he wont agree to a trade, or if he refuses to sign a pay cut. Either way he is probably gone in 2011.
44ever 10-05-2010, 07:58 AM I dont understand the hate for Portis either...
The guy has stellar blocking skills and has shown a burst this year.
We had 3 over the hill backs on the squad and Torrain didn't even make the squad.
Even though I thought Torrain would have made the initial cut, I don't trust that he can be a starter in this league....I wish it...but wishing doesn't make it true...and a good GM should never put his trust in a wish. If Portis is seriously injured....we may be forced to make a trade for a decent back...because everyone knows....without Portis, we don't have a starting quality back.
I didn't see the first quarter...so I must be missing all the glory you guys are dumping on Torrain...what I saw was a back that didn't know when to turn upfield and make something out of nothing..and I really dont know if I'd get excited over 1 quarter of work when no team has game planned for you yet. I bet Portis would have done great this year if the blocking was there...that is the real issue...this team has only had 1 game with decent rushing numbers so far...so don't think the situation is resolved.
I like the idea of trading DT for a good back if needed.
And as for Gibbs ruining Portis...that's BS...he a RB...you run him till his tongue falls out when all you have is a running game....then you get a new one.
Remember...he got us to the playoffs twice. At least Gibbs USED all his talent...
Is it better overutilize your talent or underutilize it?
The current coaching staff has been a bit guilty of the latter.
Torrain didnt do anything spectacular, but he did show he can get consistent yardage per carry. Portis is a skilled RB and his experience alone makes him a better RB than Torrain at the moment. But Portis cant break a tackle to save his life these days and is extremely injury prone.
I agree with you that a RB should be ran and ran and ran. Riggo sure didn't have a problem with it in his day. But when its time to replace the RB then it's time to replace the RB.
I love Portis but...It's Time!
freddyg12 10-05-2010, 08:42 AM I can understand why some here are tired of CP, he obviously draws a lot of attention to himself. what I think comes off wrong is people that seem to imply being a 3rd down back means he's done. Kevin Faulk, who was never even a starter, has made a career of being a 3rd down rb in NE. He's 33 or 34!
If CP can keep his tude in check & play for a reasonable salary (he ain't gettin big bucks anywhere else) he could be here for 3-4 more solid years playing as a 3rd down back. He's as good as any in the nfl at picking up the blitz, he's a better blocker than our TEs.
JoeRedskin 10-05-2010, 08:50 AM I can understand why some here are tired of CP, he obviously draws a lot of attention to himself. what I think comes off wrong is people that seem to imply being a 3rd down back means he's done. Kevin Faulk, who was never even a starter, has made a career of being a 3rd down rb in NE. He's 33 or 34!
If CP can keep his tude in check & play for a reasonable salary (he ain't gettin big bucks anywhere else) he could be here for 3-4 more solid years playing as a 3rd down back. He's as good as any in the nfl at picking up the blitz, he's a better blocker than our TEs.
I agree. In addition, he is not a bad receiver as a check down.
I just don't know if he can handle the fact that he isn't the runner he was four years ago, check his ego at the door and get the job done. He's never (IMHO) shown that kind of maturity. I guess I think he is one of those "I try. I do what the coaches tell me to do. Therefore, when I fail, it's someone else's fault." Critical self analysis does not strike me as CP's strength.
cowboy h8er 10-05-2010, 08:53 AM Clinton Portis has served us well and has been loyal to the organization. that goes a long way in the locker room. his production has been down for the past few years but so has our O-line. with the line getting in more reps our running game will get better no matter who is in the back field. I'm happy to have portis, he works harder then any other back we've had this season, injuries... yeah, but if he wasn't going all out for the skins he'd already be gone. if anything i think we should look at trading away some real wasted talent like fat Albert and get some draft picks and young talent. (sustainability). isn't their a Heisman trophy winner going into the draft this year? i can think of a few teams that need a d-tackle. shoot i also know of a wide out (randy moss) that said this is his last year on the pats.......
I agree. In addition, he is not a bad receiver as a check down.
I just don't know if he can handle the fact that he isn't the runner he was four years ago, check his ego at the door and get the job done. He's never (IMHO) shown that kind of maturity. I guess I think he is one of those "I try. I do what the coaches tell me to do. Therefore, when I fail, it's someone else's fault." Critical self analysis does not strike me as CP's strength.
He's much more of a team first guy than people seem to think.
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