freddyg12
10-06-2010, 10:07 AM
Somebody hit the nail on the head earlier. It was Joe Gibbs' fault that he gave Portis "star treatment", meaning he didnt have to practice, work out, or do anything except just enough.
This year was the first in a long while that Portis had to WORK to keep his job. Larry Johnson and Parker both were pushing him. I dont care what people said.
Portis knew that it was shape up or ship out. Shanahan let him go in Denver because of a salary/holdout threat, and so CP knew he couldnt get away with it again here.
Bottom line is, we are probably seeing Portis final run as a redskin. He is the last piece from the old regime that needs replaced. he wont be here next year due to his salary and the fact that this is his 3rd season in a row where he has missed games due to injury...
Do you mean because this is the last year of his guaranteed $? That could be the case, but that could also be the reason he stays - he won't cost as much. I don't know the details of his contract but if he's still under contract next year at a reasonable price, keep him as a 3rd down back & draft a young rb (or 2) to go w/he & Torain, maybe Williams.
Now that Shanny has gotten him to work, CP as a 3rd down back would be ideal, and they won't be likely to find anyone to fill that role next year in the draft.
irish
10-06-2010, 10:50 AM
Somebody hit the nail on the head earlier. It was Joe Gibbs' fault that he gave Portis "star treatment", meaning he didnt have to practice, work out, or do anything except just enough.
This year was the first in a long while that Portis had to WORK to keep his job. Larry Johnson and Parker both were pushing him. I dont care what people said.
Portis knew that it was shape up or ship out. Shanahan let him go in Denver because of a salary/holdout threat, and so CP knew he couldnt get away with it again here.
Bottom line is, we are probably seeing Portis final run as a redskin. He is the last piece from the old regime that needs replaced. he wont be here next year due to his salary and the fact that this is his 3rd season in a row where he has missed games due to injury...
It now seems to me that looking back on it Gibbs was Danny & Vinny's enabler. He gave an air of legitimacy to a lot of the crazy personnel moves they made.
mredskins
10-06-2010, 10:52 AM
not to derail this thread...but does anyone know the outcome of Portis's MRI?
freddyg12
10-06-2010, 10:57 AM
It now seems to me that looking back on it Gibbs was Danny & Vinny's enabler. He gave an air of legitimacy to a lot of the crazy personnel moves they made.
Guess that could be the case, but my impression of the relationship was always that Gibbs made personel decisions but Vinny was the executor of the deals. This explains why so many draft picks went out the door during Gibbs II & during the Zorn years. e.g. it wasn't so bad that Vinny got Jason Taylor, but for a 2nd & 6th that was a steep price to pay. All the trades during Gibbs' time were lopsided & not in our favor.
SirClintonPortis
10-06-2010, 11:01 AM
Guess that could be the case, but my impression of the relationship was always that Gibbs made personel decisions but Vinny was the executor of the deals. This explains why so many draft picks went out the door during Gibbs II & during the Zorn years. e.g. it wasn't so bad that Vinny got Jason Taylor, but for a 2nd & 6th that was a steep price to pay. All the trades during Gibbs' time were lopsided & not in our favor.
Gibbs had the final say. Period. Remember Desmond Howard? Gibbs took the blame for that move. We traded away a freaking 6th and 28th pick in the first round for a colossal bust.
Gibbs also said he didn't trust the draft. Not exactly his own words because I can't find the direct quote, but that's the gist of it.
SmootSmack
10-06-2010, 12:09 PM
not to derail this thread...but does anyone know the outcome of Portis's MRI?
You've got some nerve trying to derail this thread back to its original topic!
Haven't heard anything
SmootSmack
10-06-2010, 12:24 PM
We've added a running back to the practice squad
Javarris James, Miami (Fla.), NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116614)
Was with New England
44ever
10-06-2010, 01:30 PM
We've added a running back to the practice squad
Javarris James, Miami (Fla.), NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116614)
Was with New England
Lets hope he brings Edgerrin James type skills
SmootSmack
10-06-2010, 01:35 PM
Here's a link to the news
Redskins bring back Keiland Williams, add Javarris James - @TBD Skins | TBD.com (http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-skins/2010/10/redskins-bring-back-keiland-williams-add-javarris-james-2742.html)
SolidSnake84
10-06-2010, 01:42 PM
Media is saying right now that the skins aren't being honest to the extent of Portis' injury.
2 Sources, ESPN, and PFT are saying that Portis is likely out for the year.
You'd have to think so, being that they brought back 1 RB and signed another one. I think Portis is going to miss serious time either way.