Two big problems on offense: 3rd downs & red zone

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freddyg12
10-01-2010, 05:22 PM
Yeah, without statistical evidence I'd say we seem to be in 3rd and long a hell of a lot. That is killer. It's a lot easier to get creative on 3rd & 3.5 rather than 3rd & 9. I'd also like to see Portis in on 3rd more often.

I'd dont see why leaving him in to chip and release would be bad. Especially on a 3rd and mid-range.

Without the benefit of data to back this up, from my memory this hits the nail on the head! In the dallas game CP was protecting McNabb from the interior blitz (& Ratcliff), which dallas had no fear in running on virtually every pass play.

In the Houston & Rams games CP didn't play as much in the 2nd half & it showed at crucial times. At this point in his career he really is a 3rd down back, and he makes a huge difference w/blitz pick ups. He covers up how poorly the interior line has played when blitzed.

Of course, can't argue w/those that point out the lack of running game that leads to 3rd & long to begin with.

SmootSmack
10-01-2010, 05:27 PM
You alluded to it earlier- running game epic fail.

Hey Scud did you get my PM?

GusFrerotte
10-01-2010, 10:00 PM
I just hope we make a game of it on Sunday. Adam Schein actually picked us to win it, but at this point with the pass defense being god awful, we will be lucky to keep the Eagles win margin around the 10-14 pt margin.

artmonkforhallofamein07
10-01-2010, 10:16 PM
The guys on Inside the NFL split on picking this game as well.

It is amazing that some in the National media are actually picking us to make a game of it.

I think we can win, but it is going to take a hell of an effort by our Team.

KLHJ2
10-01-2010, 10:42 PM
UUUHHHMMM! Ditto? I mean what else can you say? The team needs work all around, if we can sure up a couple of things on both sides of the ball then we are contenders. If not then we are 4-12 all over again.

I have a feeling that we are going to continue to struggle on 3rd down and Redzone because the fact of the matter is that you need BIG targets and a strong running game in both areas. Now if they start using both Cooley and Davis in such situations then we miight have a shot, but they have to go to 2 WR 2 TE sets to do that which make us extremely predictable. Until we have a big WR without injury issues, then things are going to stay the same.

30gut
10-01-2010, 11:01 PM
UUUHHHMMM! Ditto? I mean what else can you say? The team needs work all around, if we can sure up a couple of things on both sides of the ball then we are contenders. If not then we are 4-12 all over again.

I have a feeling that we are going to continue to struggle on 3rd down and Redzone because the fact of the matter is that you need BIG targets and a strong running game in both areas. Now if they start using both Cooley and Davis in such situations then we miight have a shot, but they have to go to 2 WR 2 TE sets to do that which make us extremely predictable. Until we have a big WR without injury issues, then things are going to stay the same.

When did it become a fact that you need a big WR to be successful on 3rd down or in the RZ?

We just need to be more effecient in the passing game.
If our passing game can produce sustained scoring drives everything else will work itself out including the defense.
The onus is on Kyle and McNabb as goes the passing game so go the Redskins.

-PS The 1st half of the Rams game was almost exclusively Double TEs sets.

SirClintonPortis
10-01-2010, 11:08 PM
I bet Heyer was a big reason for those double TE sets. Goes to show what a dropoff he is from Williams.

GusFrerotte
10-01-2010, 11:34 PM
I think we can win, but Philly is going to have to help us in terms of turnovers. They just look really solid to me.

skins89moss
10-02-2010, 06:50 AM
VINCENT JACKSON would have fixed that

No he would have fixed us again giving away draft picks for other teams problem child.

skins89moss
10-02-2010, 07:02 AM
How is Devin Thomas not getting any time at WR behind Galloway, Armstrong, and Roydell Williams? How is this possible that Devin is worse than a 39 year old WR who can still run but does not threaten the defense. Can we just give Devin a chance and lets see if he can give Santana some help. We will continue to struggle if our other WR can not make plays on the other side.

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