The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread

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SirClintonPortis
09-26-2010, 10:10 PM
The Haslett should be fired angle of this thread is pretty stupid. Shanahan came in here and forced a 3-4 down everyone's throat when a more aggressive 4-3 is all we needed. Not to mention the fact that he chose to focus on a pissing match with the most talented defensive player on the team.

If anyone should be fired, it should be Shanahan.

Not quite, I think the Phillips 3-4 would have gone well with Albert as he would have been allowed to penetrate up the field and use his quickness.

Meks
09-26-2010, 10:11 PM
Yea I don't care for b.ball only March madness but I know the.NBA refs suck too

Pocket$ $traight
09-26-2010, 10:13 PM
Not quite, I think the Phillips 3-4 would have gone well with Albert as he would have been allowed to penetrate up the field and use his quickness.

We are a fail in anyone's 3-4. We just don't have the personnel.

This was a 4-3 team from top to bottom when Shanny arrived.

SirClintonPortis
09-26-2010, 10:16 PM
We are a fail in anyone's 3-4. We just don't have the personnel.

This was a 4-3 team from top to bottom when Shanny arrived.

Even so, it would not be as bad a fail because the NT wouldn't be total miscast.

SBXVII
09-26-2010, 10:19 PM
I said it back when we picked up the coaching staff, call it rebuild and everyone would be sitting here with the mind set that the team is going to take 3-4 yrs to be great and make a run at the SB. I don't care that it was not the coaching staff's plan it would have left the fans not expecting much and if the team did well they would have been pleasently supprised.

Instead the team came out and said "Oh we are not going to rebuild .... thats a taboo word, we have talent on this team so we are going to make a run at the play offs/SB. and instead of lowered expectations the fans are already calling for coach's heads just after 3 games.

kjahorski
09-26-2010, 10:39 PM
probably been said on this thread...but Carlos Rogers sucks...period......he is a liability.....If I was the QB on the other team I would be focusing on him the whole game. He always seems to be giving too much cushion, can't tackle that well, and has hands like salad tongs......he has 1 interception a year for the past six years, on average. Gave up a penaltly today to get an interception and still dropped the ball.....pathetic............Hall had a terrible game also, but I have much more confidence with him, at least he can catch the ball.!........as long as Rogers is in the game....a 3rd and 5 is a gimme.......in most cases.....unless the QB has a bad pass......I hate him.....!

SouperMeister
09-26-2010, 10:43 PM
The Phillips 3-4 has the NT penetrate the backfield. There is not bs hold your ground and sit pretty stuff going on there.Agreed. I love the way Phillips utilizes Jay Ratliff's quickness at NT. Big Al might be more receptive to playing NT if given similar freedom to penetrate upfield.

skinsfaninok
09-26-2010, 10:44 PM
probably been said on this thread...but Carlos Rogers sucks...period......he is a liability.....If I was the QB on the other team I would be focusing on him the whole game. He always seems to be giving too much cushion, can't tackle that well, and has hands like salad tongs......he has 1 interception a year for the past six years, on average. Gave up a penaltly today to get an interception and still dropped the ball.....pathetic............Hall had a terrible game also, but I have much more confidence with him, at least he can catch the ball.!........as long as Rogers is in the game....a 3rd and 5 is a gimme.......in most cases.....unless the QB has a bad pass......I hate him.....!

AMEN.. When I said 22 was bush league earlier during the game, people actually took his back.. The guy is a terrible Starting CB, he constantly gives up stupid plays and has his whole career.. It would be different if he made plays on the ball and actually got INT's, but he hardly ever does that. He talked shit on the organization last season and should have been cut then.

Pocket$ $traight
09-26-2010, 10:46 PM
probably been said on this thread...but Carlos Rogers sucks...period......he is a liability.....If I was the QB on the other team I would be focusing on him the whole game. He always seems to be giving too much cushion, can't tackle that well, and has hands like salad tongs......he has 1 interception a year for the past six years, on average. Gave up a penaltly today to get an interception and still dropped the ball.....pathetic............Hall had a terrible game also, but I have much more confidence with him, at least he can catch the ball.!........as long as Rogers is in the game....a 3rd and 5 is a gimme.......in most cases.....unless the QB has a bad pass......I hate him.....!


I disagree but whether he is a bum or not he is the best corner on the team from a coverage standpoint. So we cannot get rid of him at this point.

Pocket$ $traight
09-26-2010, 10:49 PM
Agreed. I love the way Phillips utilizes Jay Ratliff's quickness at NT. Big Al might be more receptive to playing NT if given similar freedom to penetrate upfield.

Even if we let Big Al do whatever he wants at NT we do not have the linebackers to play a 3-4. I said this as soon as it was announced as the direction that we were going.

The 3-4 is based on linebackers and we are at least an offseason or two away from getting the parts that we need to be effective.

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