DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day

You don't have to be top dog to do damage....No men are more dangerous than those who have nothing to lose.

...supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
I'm good with that, what's your plan?

It's a community center with a prayer room, not a mosque. And the way some people talk you'd think a theme park reenacting planes flying into buildings was being built. Not sure I'll ever understand the connection between building this center and burning a holy book.

The image of that is pretty funny, actually.
Not sure about the book burning thing as well. No good can come from that.
If they had any concern for what anyone else really thought....especially with the NATIONWIDE blow up over the issue, they would be better served building their.....reading room, library, community center, munitions laboratory...elsewhere.
It seems being a good neighbor is not part of the equation, or at least concern for what their neighbors think?

The problem is that the Mosque also represents the other bad half that we are still fighting. When its built there will be some celebrating the fact that this Mosque was built where it is and I think we don't need that. I also think that some of the donations will come from groups that hate us and would love to see the Mosque built. Why take the risk because if that happened it could get real ugly.

...supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
I'm good with that, what's your plan?

I'd start with opening a genuine dialog with people and stop supporting tyrannical/dictatorial regimes. Everyone already knows about the stick in my hand, I just need to show them I got a carrot in the other hand too.

First thing is first though, I got to get the keys to this country. Vote for me!

I'd start with opening a genuine dialog with people and stop supporting tyrannical/dictatorial regimes. Everyone already knows about my stick in my hand, I just need to show them I got a carrot in the other hand too.

First thing is first though, I got to get the keys to this country. Vote for me!


Hmmmm..........Lord Saden1???

You don't have to be top dog to do damage....No men are more dangerous than those who have nothing to lose.
And men who believe they gain heaven by violent acts are even more dangerous than those with nothing to lose.

Great Sun Tzu quote BTW. Problem with the Sun Tzu view in the case of battling fundamentalist Islam is that you cannot break this enemy's "resistance" because it consists of a religious obligation to either kill or subjugate all non-Muslims.

To be clear, I am not stating that all Muslims believe this. There are many peaceful Muslims who reject the fundamentalist ideology just as many mainline Christians reject radical Christian beliefs (burning Qurans, murdering abortion doctors, protesting at soldiers funerals, etc.). However, the problem worldwide is that there's a significant percentage of Muslims who follow the fundamentalist ideology.

The burning of the Quran is wrong and shouldn't be done, it's disrespectful to all Muslims. The same as buring Bibles is disrespectful to Christians. This display will accomplish nothing positive. However, as U.S. citizens (of all faiths) we have to either support the 1st Ammendment or not, no matter how deplorable the speech may be. I'm sickened by the thought of a picture of a crucifix in a bottle of urine being on display as art (and the NEA paying for it), I'm disgusted and angered at a U.S. flag being burned, I'm disgusted and angered if a Bible was burned. But I won't threaten, or attempt murder on those who do such things. If any violence comes to the DWOC people, it needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as a hate crime.

And men who believe they gain heaven by violent acts are even more dangerous than those with nothing to lose.

Great Sun Tzu quote BTW. Problem with the Sun Tzu view in the case of battling fundamentalist Islam is that you cannot break this enemy's "resistance" because it consists of a religious obligation to either kill or subjugate all non-Muslims.

To be clear, I am not stating that all Muslims believe this. There are many peaceful Muslims who reject the fundamentalist ideology just as many mainline Christians reject radical Christian beliefs (burning Qurans, murdering abortion doctors, protesting at soldiers funerals, etc.). However, the problem worldwide is that there's a significant percentage of Muslims who follow the fundamentalist ideology.

The burning of the Quran is wrong and shouldn't be done, it's disrespectful to all Muslims. The same as buring Bibles is disrespectful to Christians. This display will accomplish nothing positive. However, as U.S. citizens (of all faiths) we have to either support the 1st Ammendment or not, no matter how deplorable the speech may be. I'm sickened by the thought of a picture of a crucifix in a bottle of urine being on display as art (and the NEA paying for it), I'm disgusted and angered at a U.S. flag being burned, I'm disgusted and angered if a Bible was burned. But I won't threaten, or attempt murder on those who do such things. If any violence comes to the DWOC people, it needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as a hate crime.

Yes, men who think they're heaven bound if they blow themselves up in the name of Islam are the most dangerous. The question is whether there is anything you can do to deter such thought without military action?


Quantify significant percentage of Muslims and many mainline Christians.

You will see Muslims burn the American flag in displeasure but you will never ever see them burn the Bible.

Hmmmm..........Lord Saden1???

Come on, think big, think First Emperor of the United States of America!

Come on, think big, think First Emperor of the United States of America!

You must have Obama and Nancy Pelosi working with you in the shadows.

You will see Muslims burn the American flag in displeasure but you will never ever see them burn the Bible.

Instead they just cheered when the twin towers fell. They won't burn the bible because the bible is not their enemy / infidels.
I personally think burning the books are dumb. Think about it, what is the highest sold book of all time...the bible. If you burn say 100,000 of them, guess what, someone will make more. Same can be said for the Koran. Burn them, and they will make more. So there is no real point. How about redirect that anger and decide to do something about the mosque at ground zero. All they have to do is declare it a national monument, or somewhere of historical significance, and poof, they can't build there. (they CAN do this since landing gear from the plane landed on that spot.)
That being said...while I think burning the books are dumb, I say have at it. If that's what they want to do, so be it. Of course, I do believe for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction...so I wouldn't want to be those people. At least someone is standing up and trying to do SOMETHING about the fact that America keeps taking it in the ass from radical islamic culture. Just wish they could pick a better way.