Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth


Beemnseven
09-07-2010, 03:52 PM
This AH nonsense makes for some good drama, but it doesn't completely zero out all the positive things that happened this offseason, at least not for me. I could really care less if #92 is out there or not this week. I'm excited about this team and the season. One bad apple doesn't ruin the whole bunch. F him, we're winning whether he's on the field or not.

So based on what you've seen, you're not at all worried about rushing defense without AH in the lineup?

There are some things, like our running game for instance, that I'm comfortable with, even though it hasn't looked stellar so far. I can't say the same for rushing defense. With Barber, Choice, and Jones coming into town Sunday night, I'm afraid they might churn out 200 yards on the ground against us. But with AH, I'd feel safe in saying our prospects are much better.

jbcjr14
09-07-2010, 03:54 PM
Doc Walker is lighting up "the source" regarding the AH deal. It's hilarious and he is pissed. Said, he would like to kick the sources ass. Ha ha, DOC is on fire.

On ESPN 980

FRPLG
09-07-2010, 03:55 PM
We will be vulnerable if he is dumped for low round picks.
That is exactly right.

Some people may not know but John Riggins was banished from the Jets for being a douchebag flake and he came here and was floundering until Gibbs arrived. Riggins even sat out a year in dispute with the team before Gibbs arived.
Dave Butz never ever participated in any offseason work outs or weight lifting regimen or Kumbaya events even though new coach Gibbs had just showed up and rallied everyone but Butz and Riggins to participate.
By todays' Shanahan standards they would be called malcontents and be black balled. Gibbs accepted them as is and won. There is no right and wrong in dealing with very talented problem childs just right and left.

Truth...
I said it before. This notion that you have to treat everyone the same and manage them all similarly is garbage. Good managers manage people individually. Obviously Shanny wants to turn some things around. But I doubt at this point any player would mistakenly believe that the inmates are running the joint if Shanny gave in a little to get the situation on the tracks.

Mc2guy
09-07-2010, 03:56 PM
Two of the top three draft picks in this draft were unproven power DT's just like Haynesworth.
These types of players are a commodity and we should give ours away for a 5th and a 3rd or a 2nd.
I would rather wait and keep him this year and trade him when a team calls desperate to make a playoff push or next off season.
Getting rid of him to make some kind of 'Shanahan is a he-man pound on my chest statement' is stupid and does not make good football and business sense.
The whole distraction thing is over blown.
He is in shape and ready to play. Lets use him.....hell we paid for him, lets get some return. Put our pride a side for a minute.

The assumption that you are making (and I believe it is an incorrect one), is that Albert will suddenly turn it on when the games count. The reality is that AH is pissed about the system, doesn't like his new coach, feels insulted, and has no motivation to play since he's already been paid. It really doesn't matter to him and he has made that clear. He has made it perfectly clear that he is going to be a PITA until he is dealt, so why would he play hard?

To assume that he will suddenly become a beast once the scores are counted is a pretty huge assumption given what we know about this guy at this point. After the Cards game, I think Shanahan feels that he can't count on AH to play and if you can't count on the guy to actually play when it matters, why the world would you put up with the other crap he brings?

SouperMeister
09-07-2010, 03:57 PM
I'm hoping Haynesworth plays in the opener, because without him, I can see Dallas' trio of RB's running wild Sunday night. Say what you want about Albert's play last year, but it's foolish to think that his presence doesn't make the front 7 better.

skinsfaninok
09-07-2010, 04:00 PM
So is Britt in the talks?

Monkeydad
09-07-2010, 04:00 PM
I'm hoping Haynesworth plays in the opener, because without him, I can see Dallas' trio of RB's running wild Sunday night. Say what you want about Albert's play last year, but it's foolish to think that his presence doesn't make the front 7 better.

Which of their 3 mediocre RBs will hurt us the most?

Defensewins
09-07-2010, 04:00 PM
Preach....I'd be, already am, very nervous about lining up Maake at NT for considerable time. From what I saw this summer, he's not ready. Don't know if it's that he's not fully healthy or what but if the Skins do plan on shipping Big Al out I hope they have another plan other than Maake

And it is not just Maake, the other starters as well Carriker (injury history), Golsten (not a big power guy, more of a speed guy) and the rest of our DL are not going to strike fear. Our Opponents at the moment only have to scheme and account for Orakpo and Haynesworth on obvious passing downs. Why do we want to get rid of someone that provides this good situation? Cause we do not like his personalty?
We talk about being an agressiv defense and dictating to offenses, Carriker, Maake and Golsten do not provide the level of physical play that will dictate to offenses and can make this system potentially fail or not achieve its goals. This system counts on pass rushers and disruptive style players like Haynesworth.

Hog1
09-07-2010, 04:01 PM
The assumption that you are making (and I believe it is an incorrect one), is that Albert will suddenly turn it on when the games count. The reality is that AH is pissed about the system, doesn't like his new coach, feels insulted, and has no motivation to play since he's already been paid. It really doesn't matter to him and he has made that clear. He has made it perfectly clear that he is going to be a PITA until he is dealt, so why would he play hard?

To assume that he will suddenly become a beast once the scores are counted is a pretty huge assumption given what we know about this guy at this point. After the Cards game, I think Shanahan feels that he can't count on AH to play and if you can't count on the guy to actually play when it matters, why the world would you put up with the other crap he brings?

I believe you are correct as he DID NOT do it last season when he was presumably.......happy?

aceinthehouse
09-07-2010, 04:02 PM
Well...TK has finally spoken..

Originally Posted by TK View Post
Tenn called us over Labor Day weekend inquiring about Al. We said we'd take this & this. They said it's too much, as we knew was more then they'd give. But when a team calls, we do listen.

Tenn wants him back. Badly. We're not going to just give him away. Especially after just paying him 21 mil.

This board needs an enema.

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