Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth

Smoot, are you hearing that this deal will have any connection with a VJ trade?

I feel the same way. Late in the season when injuries set in, as they always do and we need a stout difference maker on the D line to collaspe the pocket in a critical 3rd down pass play, we might live to regret dumping him. I am not talking about a big body to clog the middle. Hayensworth fills that role, non of of other DL can run over another top OL.
I want us to be careful not become Vinny Cerrato-like having a million WR's thinking a young WR is the magic pill that will solve all of our problems and no depth at other positions.

That makes (by my count) three of us. As much of pain in the ass Albert Haynesworth is, I shudder to think what our run defense is going to look like this year without him. Judging by what we've seen through exhibition, if I'm an opponent of the Redskins this year, all I do is run, run, and run some more. Run it right down their throats.

Then you have to examine what impact his loss will be to the double digit sack totals we had last year with Andre Carter and Brian Orakpo.

Sometimes you have to put up with the talented problem child to win in this league.

Two of the top three draft picks in this draft were unproven power DT's just like Haynesworth.
These types of players are a commodity and we should give not ours away for a 5th and a 3rd or a 2nd.
I would rather wait and keep him this year and trade him when a team calls desperate to make a playoff push or next off season.
Getting rid of him to make some kind of 'Shanahan is a he-man pound on my chest statement' is stupid and does not make good football and business sense.
The whole distraction thing is over blown.
He is in shape and ready to play. Lets use him.....hell we paid for him, lets get some return. Put our pride a side for a minute.

People have to remember that Shanny is the man!

he made us throw in a 2nd rounder in the portis/bailey trade.

Shanny is shrewd...We aren't trading fal for a conditional 2048 draft pick...lol

Hell..if anything,it will be the redskins getting Kenny britt,Will witherspoon and a 3rd rounder for fat al....lololol

Just remember that guys...lol

j/k

There will be a major problem with the D if Big Al gets traded .. however there is already a big problem if he stays .. for all the reasons we have read about, watched on tv, seen in person over the past 6 months it just seems like it needs to end ... i already smell a major problem with the Dallas game this week .. to much Albert talk should be ALL ABOUT BEATING DALLAS AND WE WANT DALLAS ... F' all this noise about Big Al ...

That makes (by my count) three of us. As much of pain in the ass Albert Haynesworth is, I shudder to think what our run defense is going to look like this year without him. Judging by what we've seen through exhibition, if I'm an opponent of the Redskins this year, all I do is run, run, and run some more. Run it right down their throats.

Then you have to examine what impact his loss will be to the double digit sack totals we had last year with Andre Carter and Brian Orakpo.

Sometimes you have to put up with the talented problem child to win in this league.

We will be vulnerable if he is dumped for low round picks.
That is exactly right.

Some people may not know but John Riggins was banished from the Jets for being a douchebag flake and he came here and was floundering until Gibbs arrived. Riggins even sat out a year in dispute with the team before Gibbs arived.
Dave Butz never ever participated in any offseason work outs or weight lifting regimen or Kumbaya events even though new coach Gibbs had just showed up and rallied everyone but Butz and Riggins to participate.
By todays' Shanahan standards they would be called malcontents and be black balled. Gibbs accepted them as is and won. There is no right and wrong in dealing with very talented problem childs just right and left.

As others have stated this defense will siffer with the loss of AH. There is no one on the roster who posseses his skill set.

The run game and pass rush will suffer from this dude being gone.

We will be vulnerable if he is dumped for low round picks.
That is exactly right.

Some people may not know but John Riggins was banished from the Jets for being a douchebag flake and he came here and was floundering until Gibbs arrived. Riggins even sat out a year in dispute with the team before Gibbs arived.
Dave Butz never ever participated in any offseason work outs or weight lifting regimen or Kumbaya events even though new coach Gibbs had just showed up and rallied everyone but Butz and Riggins to participate.
By todays' Shanahan standards they would be called malcontents and be black balled. Gibbs accepted them as is and won. There is no right and wrong in dealing with very talented problem childs just right and left.


Well said.

Smoot, are you hearing that this deal will have any connection with a VJ trade?

Nope

We will be vulnerable if he is dumped for low round picks.
That is exactly right.

Some people may not know but John Riggins was banished from the Jets for being a douchebag flake and he came here and was floundering until Gibbs arrived. Riggins even sat out a year in dispute with the team before Gibbs arived.
Dave Butz never ever participated in any offseason work outs or weight lifting regimen or Kumbaya events even though new coach Gibbs had just showed up and rallied everyone but Butz and Riggins to participate.
By todays' Shanahan standards they would be called malcontents and be black balled. Gibbs accepted them as is and won. There is no right and wrong in dealing with very talented problem childs just right and left.

Preach....I'd be, already am, very nervous about lining up Maake at NT for considerable time. From what I saw this summer, he's not ready. Don't know if it's that he's not fully healthy or what but if the Skins do plan on shipping Big Al out I hope they have another plan other than Maake