JoeRedskin
09-02-2010, 03:09 PM
Funny, much like Beck himself this thread is all over the place and not making much sense.
You speaketh the truthiest.
What sayeth the mob to this??
You speaketh the truthiest.
What sayeth the mob to this??
My Thoughts On The Glenn Beck RallyJoeRedskin 09-02-2010, 03:09 PM Funny, much like Beck himself this thread is all over the place and not making much sense. You speaketh the truthiest. What sayeth the mob to this?? Slingin Sammy 33 09-02-2010, 03:12 PM Funny, much like Beck himself this thread is all over the place and not making much sense.LOL. I can sit and watch Hannity, O'Reilly, the Sunday AM shows, but I can never watch Beck for more than a couple of minutes before clicking out. JoeRedskin 09-02-2010, 03:22 PM Beck is what he is. Sounds to me like the rally was positive event for those that participated. The problem with the bolded statement is that the Founding Fathers were "crazy" and they believed (as do over 90% of Americans) that the basis for our unalienable rights is from God, not other men or "government". Very important distinction. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." Most Americans Believe in Higher Power, Poll Finds - washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062300813.html?sid=ST2008062300818&s_pos)= I know the problem the non-religious have with those who are religious is when they carry their desire to "save" everyone to extremes and try to force their beliefs on others. I understand and completely agree with the non-religious on that. However, those who believe (myself included) have a problem with being characterized as believing in "fairy tales" or just flat out being "crazy". The religion issue is always a very touchy subject for most and it is often brought to extremes by those on the fringes. Excellent post. Quite frankly, I am tired of hearing my beliefs being referred to as fairy tales by those who chose to believe differently. BB, where do your "inalienable rights" come from? If you do not believe in the existence of a being outside creation, aren't they just conveyed to you by other humans? If so conveyed, isn't it equally true that they can be legitimately denied by the same? firstdown 09-02-2010, 03:31 PM Did you happen to notice the summer weather on the East Coast this year? In many areas it was the hottest summer ever recorded. Ever. Take your head out of the sand. Global warming is a scientific fact. Unfortunately major corporate polluters are spending truckloads of money in an attempt to discredit the science. It's criminal behavior and you shouldn't support it if you have any respect for the environment. I never said global warming was not happening. By the way the scientist discredited them self. You also act like Gore has not made millions and millions off his BS but the man made global warming people seem to ignore his huge $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ interest in this whole thing. Hog1 09-02-2010, 03:43 PM You speaketh the truthiest. What sayeth the mob to this?? I cannot decide............ Slingin Sammy 33 09-02-2010, 03:57 PM Excellent post. Quite frankly, I am tired of hearing my beliefs being referred to as fairy tales by those who chose to believe differently. BB, where do your "inalienable rights" come from? If you do not believe in the existence of a being outside creation, aren't they just conveyed to you by other humans? If so conveyed, isn't it equally true that they can be denied by the same?Here's something I've always brought up when going down this path with those that don't believe. There are two sides to the argument either God exists, or does not exist. First, let's say non-believers are right and He doesn't exist. In that scenario, I still believe He exists, so I live my life in accordance with Christian principles. I raise a family and they do the same. We all obey the government's laws and are generally good (not perfect, but try to be good). I get old, sick, and die still believing in God. He doesn't exist so there's no heaven, hell, etc. I was just a mass of cells with electric pulses / chemical reactions going on inside, I never know if I was right or wrong, and I'm gone. No harm, no foul. I generally left my circle of influence a little bit better than it would've been had I not existed. But.....what if I'm right, God does exist, and non-believers have flat-out rejected Him. Not a real good postion for them to be in. wilsowilso 09-02-2010, 04:19 PM But.....what if I'm right, God does exist, and non-believers have flat-out rejected Him. Not a real good postion for them to be in. What if God exists and could care less if people acknowledge him according to one dogma or the other or if they even believe in him at all? What if you live an honest life and contribute to your family and community and that's really all it takes to be in God's good graces? mlmpetert 09-02-2010, 04:27 PM The Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/) Glenn Beck's new website. BOOKMARK IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Slingin Sammy 33 09-02-2010, 04:34 PM What if God exists and could care less if people acknowledge him according to one dogma or the other or if they even believe in him at all?maybe I should've rephrased God to "what Judeo-Christian's believe as God". What if you live an honest life and contribute to your family and community and that's really all it takes to be in God's good graces?Then that's fantastic. Look, I'm not trying to push my beliefs on anyone. I was responding to JoeR, who I know holds a similiar belief system as I do. I know there are many that believe different things and I'm not an evangelical who's out to "save" everyone. But at the same time, I'm going to make a statement when others make the claim that my whole belief system is based on fairy tales. mlmpetert 09-02-2010, 04:46 PM Here's something I've always brought up when going down this path with those that don't believe. There are two sides to the argument either God exists, or does not exist. First, let's say non-believers are right and He doesn't exist. In that scenario, I still believe He exists, so I live my life in accordance with Christian principles. I raise a family and they do the same. We all obey the government's laws and are generally good (not perfect, but try to be good). I get old, sick, and die still believing in God. He doesn't exist so there's no heaven, hell, etc. I was just a mass of cells with electric pulses / chemical reactions going on inside, I never know if I was right or wrong, and I'm gone. No harm, no foul. I generally left my circle of influence a little bit better than it would've been had I not existed. But.....what if I'm right, God does exist, and non-believers have flat-out rejected Him. Not a real good postion for them to be in. That sounds like how my dad thinks. He has stated that he goes to church for “insurance” purposes. I dont know if i think thats a healthy way to be religious. I watch South Park every now and then, and I remember watching a episode about Mormons. It basically poked fun at a lot of the ridiculous beliefs that Mormons have, but it also showed how happy the Mormon family was and how they were great people and had great values. So that’s the way I look at it. Sure belive what you want, but at the end of the day does it make you a better person. If you’re a “non-believer” that cant help yourself when it come it comes to attacking other people’s beliefs – does that make you a better person. If you’re run by divine providence and think your job is to save other people to the point that you offend them – does that make you a better person. As much as I hate it (because the type of people I see in the cars) I really like the idea behind the coexist bumper sticker (http://www.northernsun.com/images/imagelarge/Coexist-Bumper-Sticker-(7167).jpg). |
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