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artmonkforhallofamein07
08-28-2010, 06:11 PM
I got 10-6 or 11-5. I see us splitting with the Giants, Eagles, and cowboys, and losing to the Colts and Packers.

And my sixth loss will be against possibly the Vikings, I could see us winning one of the big three games outside the division IE Colts, Packers, Vikings. Then lose to a team we should beat.

Also we could go 4-2 in the division and lose to one of the teams we should beat easily.

OR we could go something in the range of 0-16 wins with something like 0-16 losses.

:)

GusFrerotte
08-28-2010, 06:16 PM
I wouldn't put Detroit that easily in the win column. They are the guys that started the disaster for the SS Zorn and it is at Ford Field again. We beat the Lions handily in the playoffs, since it usually is in MD, but we are 2-3 against them during our last 5 meetings

beemnsevenspop
08-28-2010, 06:18 PM
I wouldn't put Detroit that easily in the win column. They are the guys that started the disaster for the SS Zorn and it is at Ford Field again. We beat the Lions handily in the playoffs, since it usually is in MD, but we are 2-3 against them during our last 5 meetings

I was being generous - that's the optimist in me coming out....

artmonkforhallofamein07
08-28-2010, 06:23 PM
Gus we are going to rock the Lions this year.

Mike Shanahan is not going to let the Redskins lose to the Lions again this year.

GusFrerotte
08-28-2010, 06:33 PM
Gus we are going to rock the Lions this year.

Mike Shanahan is not going to let the Redskins lose to the Lions again this year.

I hope you are right. I was totally ribbed big time coming out of Ford Field in my Skins jersey surrounded by Lions fans last year. Everyone was joking around that I should take off the jersey since we lost to them. If we are healthy I agree with you, but if we are banged up or for some reason not firing on all cylinders, we can lose. The Lions look improved for the most part.

Lotus
08-28-2010, 06:36 PM
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/25/AR2010082506409.html?sid=ST2010082507622)

Boswell made several good points in that article. My expectations are tempered at around the 8 win mark. Anyone thinking more is pretty much setting themselves up for disappointment. Some highlights:

In the last 20 years, 18 teams that went 4-12 switched coaches. Their average record the next season was 7-9.

Is there even a chance the Redskins could make the playoffs? Sure, there is. Unfortunately, it's just not much of a chance - less than 20 percent. Since '90, there have been 54 teams that lost 11 or more games, then got a new coach before the next season. How many made the playoff the first year? Ten of 54, or just 19 percent.

For the Redskins to reach 9-7 this season - a winning record and a mark that might get them into the playoffs - they would have to win five more games than last year. How rare is that? You guessed it: Darn rare. In the last 20 years, 115 NFL teams have changed coaches after the season. Just 17 of them - or 14.9 percent - improved by five wins. That should be sobering. But it gets worse. Of the 17 teams that showed big jumps, how many went backward in the new coach's second season? Answer: 13 of the 17.

Washington plays seven games against teams that won 11 to 14 games last year and four more against .500-or-better teams. That's not a schedule. It's a 113-day final examination.

You want me to tell you that the history book says that everything will be dandy by 2011. Sorry, another wrong answer.
Let's go back to those 115 coaching changes since '90. How many of those franchises had improved by five wins - which it would take to get the Redskins to 9-7 - by the end of Year Two? Only 22 teams - or 19 percent - met that high standard.

Expectations are premeditated resentments folks. Don't expect more than .500 from this team. Hell, that would would be twice as many wins as 2009.

Or you could drink Kool-Aid only to be horribly defeated. I for one am done going that route.

Although I appreciate the sobering numbers, Boswell would have been better off looking at teams which changed coaches AND GMs. Situations like Matt Millen changing coaches should not count here - we got rid of Cerrato.

artmonkforhallofamein07
08-28-2010, 06:38 PM
I agree Gus, but this is one of those games that with Mcnabb and even with coach Shanny we should be able to out coach them.

We are signifigantly improved in so many areas then we were last year and I just do not see vast improvement from the Lions. WE should be able to make some big plays against them and force some turnovers with our aggressive new defense.

I like our chances this year.

GusFrerotte
08-28-2010, 06:43 PM
Thing is you also have to take in account the system changes and the personnel from the previous regimes. The Gibbs guys didn't flourish in Zorn's system. It might take our guys a bit to get used to Shanny's. As far as the changes with FO tactics from Cerrato to Allen, not much of a change with the exception of the modest sizes of the contracts. We are still going heavy with free agency at the expense of future draft picks, thus the continuance of the win now philosophy.

GusFrerotte
08-28-2010, 06:44 PM
I agree Gus, but this is one of those games that with Mcnabb and even with coach Shanny we should be able to out coach them.

We are signifigantly improved in so many areas then we were last year and I just do not see vast improvement from the Lions. WE should be able to make some big plays against them and force some turnovers with our aggressive new defense.

I like our chances this year.


I do to, but then again I loved our chances last year and we stunk up the place really bad.

artmonkforhallofamein07
08-28-2010, 06:51 PM
Well to be fair to our guys, not many people flourished in Zorn's system, which as we have come to find out had Cooley ( as an example ) running all of seven different routes, and as much everyone harps on our offensive line losing game for us in the past, I believe this group can help us win some. AND Zorn's system lost us plenty of games in 08 and 09.

I know we will have growing pains and I actually remember reading your post of how dissapointed you were last year when you attended that losing effort.

I just have a feeling that with our pass protection being so much improved as well as the play of our QBs we should have a damn good shot of kicking the crap out of them.

I guess you and I should revisit this topic before the game since we will have a better understanding of who this team will be and also who may or may not be playing! :)

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