CRedskinsRule
08-26-2010, 08:32 AM
According to the 9th District Court, tracking your car is not an unreasonable invasion of privacy, and you have no expectation of privacy in your driveway.
The Government's New Right to Track Your Every Move With GPS - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599201315000)
I find this a bit over-reaching for at least 2 reasons.
1) I would hope that most here would agree that it is one thing to say "okay, my car may be viewed at any time." and a far different thing to say the police have the right to track my specific movements 24 hours a day, whether or not I leave my car parked in the driveway, public lot, or any other accessible area.
2) What happens if I pull into my garage after they attach a tracking device, do they have to turn it off since I now have a reasonable expectation of privacy?
Overall, without reading the actual case and underlying complaint, this seems like a bad interpretation of the 4th amendment.
cpayne5
08-26-2010, 09:14 AM
This has been the case for a while. It was explained to me that the authorities only needed a warrant if they were to install a device that was powered by the vehicle, else (self powered), no warrant necessary. This has been common practice for a long time, spanning many presidential administrations.
Dirtbag59
08-26-2010, 11:06 PM
I don't mind this at all. Lots of good can come from it, especially in regards to situations such as Amber alerts. What I don't want is what the rental car companies have in place where they fine you for going over the speed limit thanks to software that tracks how fast you go on certain roads.
artmonkforhallofamein07
08-26-2010, 11:29 PM
In certain situations, this is useful, but for the most part this is an invasion of privacy and I guess gives me a reason to continue to not use GPS and stick to the old school method of a map.
I find it very funny when friends of mine who have gps, especially the older crowd that I know, who freak out when the gps is not working. Hearing things like I cant go out of town without my gps working... why? 10 years ago these same people were using maps with ease with out having some computer chick voice telling them where to go. And is it just me or do they not work that well sometimes.
I have alot of fond memories being my dad's navigator on long road trips as a kid. Great way to bond with the old man as wel as a good way to pass the time when in the car for hours.
CRedskinsRule
08-26-2010, 11:30 PM
I don't mind this at all. Lots of good can come from it, especially in regards to situations such as Amber alerts. What I don't want is what the rental car companies have in place where they fine you for going over the speed limit thanks to software that tracks how fast you go on certain roads.. Usuallyv amber alerts are such that if they can find the car they find the criminal thus no need to set up tracking. The point being that they don't need to get a warrant thus they don't need a probable cause to apply it. What if a police team put a tracker on your car, and sent you tickets for every instance you were speeding. It would be legal according to this court ruling.
To be clear if the police have probable cause to think you kidnapped someone and tracking your vehicle helped save that person great but get a warrant, even on an expedited process, and then do the deed. Its the lack of oversight that is my issue, not the tracking ittself
tryfuhl
08-27-2010, 12:11 AM
I don't mind this at all. Lots of good can come from it, especially in regards to situations such as Amber alerts. What I don't want is what the rental car companies have in place where they fine you for going over the speed limit thanks to software that tracks how fast you go on certain roads.
you realize that most kidnappings aren't known of well in advance? an amber alert is oftentimes a very immediate response to a missing child, not something that's had an eye kept on it for awhile
firstdown
08-27-2010, 09:54 AM
I don't mind this at all. Lots of good can come from it, especially in regards to situations such as Amber alerts. What I don't want is what the rental car companies have in place where they fine you for going over the speed limit thanks to software that tracks how fast you go on certain roads.
I'd love to know what rental companies track their customers speed?
artmonkforhallofamein07
08-27-2010, 10:12 AM
. Usuallyv amber alerts are such that if they can find the car they find the criminal thus no need to set up tracking. The point being that they don't need to get a warrant thus they don't need a probable cause to apply it. What if a police team put a tracker on your car, and sent you tickets for every instance you were speeding. It would be legal according to this court ruling.
To be clear if the police have probable cause to think you kidnapped someone and tracking your vehicle helped save that person great but get a warrant, even on an expedited process, and then do the deed. Its the lack of oversight that is my issue, not the tracking ittself
Agreed.
CRedskinsRule
08-27-2010, 11:05 AM
I'd love to know what rental companies track their customers speed?
Rental Car Company Tracks Customers - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130872&page=1)