GPS Tracking

Rental Car Company Tracks Customers - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130872&page=1)

Thanks for the link. I deal with the bigger companies and my daughter works for enterprise and I was very curious about your statement. While I'm in the insurance business if I found out that a rental car company was tracking my customers like this it would be the last time I refer them to a customer.

Thanks for the link. I deal with the bigger companies and my daughter works for enterprise and I was very curious about your statement. While I'm in the insurance business if I found out that a rental car company was tracking my customers like this it would be the last time I refer them to a customer.

Sorry to hear that, heard they can be brutal to work for. I have a buddy that worked there for a long time, he ended up leaving after getting screwed over several times.

"Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, who dissented from this month's decision refusing to reconsider the case, pointed out whose homes are not open to strangers: rich people's. The court's ruling, he said, means that people who protect their homes with electric gates, fences and security booths have a large protected zone of privacy around their homes. People who cannot afford such barriers have to put up with the government sneaking around at night."

Just a microcosm of our society.

"Chief Judge Alex Kozinski, who dissented from this month's decision refusing to reconsider the case, pointed out whose homes are not open to strangers: rich people's. The court's ruling, he said, means that people who protect their homes with electric gates, fences and security booths have a large protected zone of privacy around their homes. People who cannot afford such barriers have to put up with the government sneaking around at night."

Just a microcosm of our society.

See, I guess I would expect that your car is an extension of your property, and you would have a reasonable expectation of privacy as it relates to police access. I don't know the case law, but when police stop you, what is in hands reach is public, but they can't search anywhere else without a warrant or your approval. This seems to undermine that principle in that they can clearly go into places you would not normally check and place an intrusive device in such a way that you would have no knowledge of it. Again, if they have a warrant and probable cause ok. One more question, I am curious about if anyone knows. Can a private investigator, or even an average joe, do the same thing, legally? Could I, for example, place a GPS tracking device on my ex-wife's car, and then later use those results in court? (I am not, nor do I have any intention of, doing this!)

Agreed CRed. I am law abiding and if they want to waste their time by following me to work or the grocery, so be it. But the idea that they can come on your property, place an electronic tracking device on your vehicle, and then follow you, all without a warrant, seems to me blatantly unConstitutional. I don't even see where the argument is unless someone is reading a different Bill of Rights than I am.

Rental Car Company Tracks Customers - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130872&page=1)


LOL...wow, now that's what I call enterprising. I really don't get how these fools think anyone would ever rent from them once what they're doing becomes common knowledge.

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I think its actually a pretty cool plate, but im more of just a basic plate guy myself. Plus paying a fee to the goverment to advocate small goverment sounds a little fishy to me?

I don't mind this at all. Lots of good can come from it, especially in regards to situations such as Amber alerts. What I don't want is what the rental car companies have in place where they fine you for going over the speed limit thanks to software that tracks how fast you go on certain roads.
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CRedskinsrule.. I agree with you. I think its definitely and invasion of privacy for them to be able to simply track your vehicle through GPS without any kind of warrant. From what I understand the police have up to 3 days to go back and get a warrant after the fact as it is... I could understand the warrantless wiretapping of phones going into or coming out of terrorist states but this is definitely domestic only and has really nothing to do with terrorism or national defense.

Ok, I'm late to the game again... lol.

You all act like "Big Gov" is tracking everyone all the time. There not. and yes to "attach" any tracking device to someones car they do need a warrant. However they would not do that unless you have broken the law, or the police believe you are involved in a crime that is on going. Honestly, local police have too much other things to worry about vs. tracking their populace. So that leaves the Feds and one has to think there are too many people out there for them to simply track every day.

Simply put.... don't break the law and you don't have to worry.

But... I think the ruling has more to do with can they use your "On-Star" to track you if need be. In this case there would be no need for a warrant because they wouldn't be "attaching" anything to your car. So the next question is why would they track you? Again only if they think you have been involved in a crime or are currently involved in one. Example; someone gives your license plate as being the bank robber. The police can find out if it has "On-Star" and track where the car is. Another example; you call 911 claiming someone stole your car. The police can locate it by using "On-Star" or even cutting off the engine if need be.