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redrock-skins
11-21-2004, 11:36 AM
What penalties do you give to:

1. Ron Artest?

2. Stephen Jackson?

3. Jermaine O'neal?

4. Ben Wallace?



My answers:

1. 25 Games for Artest. Had a beer cup not actually been thrown at him, I'd give him a year. You just can't go into the stands though I can't really blame him. Someone throws a cup at me in a bar or at a game, I'm going after him.

2. Jackson-10 games. Precedent was established with Vernon Maxwell

3. O'neal-10 games-same as above.

(Don't know if all suspensions should be served at once as that will leave the Pacers with no team and almost reward the Piston's fan's bad behavior and provocation as it would derail the Pacers season.

4. Ben Wallace-3 games. Yes, this whole thing started with his shove, but he kept it on the court.

Gmanc711
11-21-2004, 11:52 AM
Artest... Minimum of 15 games, but proboly more. Everyone who is like " I would have done the same thing " is either lying or just as stupid as him. This kinda crap happens all the time, and people dont go running into the stands. Micheal Irvin said on Countdown today he had batteries thrown at him... hes even a Cowboy but stayed on the feild. This thing happens more than people think, you just gotta let security handle it and arrest the punk. I lean closer to the year for Artest.

Jackson/O'neal - Shouldnt have gone into the stands, but there were like 4 guys trying to kick Artests ass, and they came to his aid, so I give them a little more leway. I think a couple of their punches thrown were complete cheapshots, esepcially O'neals to that guy who was on his knees, but it was on the court, so I dont think it should add to the suspension, it was just cheap shot in my opinion. I'd say 6-7 games a peice.

Wallace - 3 games sounds about right. It would proobly be 1 game or just a fine if that other crap didnt happen, so i'd say 3.

Realisticly, you have to make an example of someone, I think Artest is the obvious fall guy. You need to show everyone in all leagues that this is totaly unacceptable. I would say take him out for the year, and show everyone else how bad what he did was. If they know who those fans were; I would say they should be punished severley as well. Does anyone think jail time will be enforced on the fans or the players?

MTK
11-21-2004, 02:31 PM
Artest, half the season

Jackson and O'Neal 10-15 games

Wallace, 3-5 games

SmootSmack
11-21-2004, 02:35 PM
Wallace: 10 games

Jackson, Artest, and O'Neal: All get 20 games

Rasheed didn't throw punches, but he did go into the stands right? Does that alone warrant suspension?

Gmanc711
11-21-2004, 02:41 PM
The thing with Rasheed is he didnt throw any punches when he was up there, I think he was genuintley just trying to break it up. However, I would say supspend him just for being in the stands, even though I think he was just trying to help. You gotta set examples

SmootSmack
11-21-2004, 03:14 PM
FOX Sports Radio is reporting that the following suspensions will be announced by the NBA:

Artest-30 games
Jackson-20 games
O'Neal-20 games
Ben Wallace-5 games

this should give Artest plenty of time to promote his new album

redrock-skins
11-21-2004, 03:26 PM
That was such a unique situation, that Rasheed should not get a suspension. If they really have to set an example, give him one game. Still, Rasheed really was trying to be a peacemaker and could be helpful given he was up there with his home fans.

SmootSmack
11-21-2004, 06:39 PM
Well I guess Artest is done for the year according to FOX now

MTK
11-21-2004, 06:47 PM
Well I guess Artest is done for the year according to FOX now
good, hope he gets a hefty fine too

redrock-skins
11-21-2004, 07:36 PM
The Pistons fans' behavior was rewarded by the NBA by effectively taking Indiana out of the mix in the east.

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