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CRedskinsRule 08-27-2010, 02:23 PM The take our country back motto, at least if it's true to my feelings which it may or may not be, is directed at both parties. The republicans betrayed many of their party in the late 90's and early 2000's when instead of limiting gov't they simply diverted it's resources to the rich. And the democrats have long given up on the meaning of limited government. If it were simply a 2008-9 thing, or Lord Obama thing, then they would just go back into the folds of the republicans. Taking the country back means taking it back from an ever growing, and relentless march of big government drums. Of course that won't, can't happen, so it's just a place to vent at this point.
dmek25 08-27-2010, 02:35 PM CRR i hear you. and a lot of what you say is true. but not everyone that is poor chooses to be. there are many circumstances that arise that keep people from reaching their potential. and that is one of the biggest differences in the parties. the GOP thinks that people are poor by choice. the Dem's look at the poor as just needing that little extra help
Beck and Palin, oh man what a pair. It's frightening there are people out there that take these two seriously.
dmek25 08-27-2010, 02:39 PM and the tea party movement is a joke. if they wanted credibility, they would have started around 2006, when W and the boys were spending like madman. their timing leaves a lot to be desired. all of a sudden Obama takes office, and they want their country back. give me a break
saden1 08-27-2010, 02:52 PM I heard over 300K expected to attend.
I thought this was pretty cool about MLK's niece:
Glenn Beck 8/28 rally: It's a matter of honor - CSMonitor.com (http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0826/Glenn-Beck-8-28-rally-It-s-a-matter-of-honor)
I wasn't aware our honor was lost and in need of restoring but whatever.
MonkFan4Life 08-27-2010, 02:53 PM CR I'm with you but I agree with dmek as well. I NEVER ever heard of the Tea Party until Obama won. Then all of a sudden it's let's take our country back and lets do like we did the British and dump Tea to show our strength. As a black man I saw it as that's our office, now get him out of here. That's just how I felt. The problem I have with them is that if it isn't the fact that Obama is President they use it to their advantage which is cool, but it just paints a certain picture for me. That's all. I understand that they are mad a government itself but like dmek said, if it's government itself then where were all the truckloads of Lipton Tea Bags then ?
CRedskinsRule 08-27-2010, 03:05 PM I am not involved with the tea party, I just give my feelings or thoughts. That said, I think a lot of the timing is fairly coincidental. The republican party showed itself to be a useless tool, and at the same time the democratic party started pushing their grandiose government. Thus the tea party sprouted up by people who no longer believed that the republicans wanted a limited govt and didn't trust the dems promises of salvation by govt. At the same time, those who want change, but not "revolutionary" change, leaned to vote for Obama, as his slogan said, a change you can believe in. In the end, there is a lot of discontent, but it's assuaged by economics, and if the economy gets healthy the energy behind change will die out. But, like a fire, if the embers burn long enough, and the economy stays dry, a flame may burst forth.
12thMan 08-27-2010, 04:03 PM I wasn't aware our honor was lost and in need of restoring but whatever.
Exactly. Since when did America's honor needed to be restored? By Glenn Beck no less.
For those interested, Eugene Robinson has a pretty good Op-Ed in today's Washinton Post. Sums it up pretty well.
MonkFan4Life 08-27-2010, 04:11 PM Exactly. Since when did America's honor needed to be restored? By Glenn Beck no less.
For those interested, Eugene Robinson has a pretty good Op-Ed in today's Washinton Post. Sums it up pretty well.
Pretty much did. I remembered Beck calling Obama a racist but forgot about the deep seeded hatred for White people part. Beck goes pretty hard. I hope they have a good time.
MonkFan4Life 08-27-2010, 04:13 PM I am not involved with the tea party, I just give my feelings or thoughts. That said, I think a lot of the timing is fairly coincidental. The republican party showed itself to be a useless tool, and at the same time the democratic party started pushing their grandiose government. Thus the tea party sprouted up by people who no longer believed that the republicans wanted a limited govt and didn't trust the dems promises of salvation by govt. At the same time, those who want change, but not "revolutionary" change, leaned to vote for Obama, as his slogan said, a change you can believe in. In the end, there is a lot of discontent, but it's assuaged by economics, and if the economy gets healthy the energy behind change will die out. But, like a fire, if the embers burn long enough, and the economy stays dry, a flame may burst forth.
I didn't mean to imply that you were if I came off that way. I just commented on what you and dmek were saying is all. You make some very good points though.
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