Haynesworth fails conditioning test


hooskins
07-29-2010, 03:19 PM
Wait wait wait, how do we know this is a standard test? Do D-linemen normally get this kind of test?

If not, then how do we know if the test accurately reflects his ability(especially if the majority of D-Linemen may not pass this test). Again I dont know one way or another, just a question and not a rush to conclusion.

12thMan
07-29-2010, 03:19 PM
Tell you what, he's certainly not endearing anyone to himself pulling these stunts.

GTripp0012
07-29-2010, 03:21 PM
It was all about conditioning.

Are you saying they gave him a test that was impossible to pass?

Give me a freakin break. If he was in great condition he would have passed the test. The guy is never in great condition so they might have assumed that he wouldn't pass, but that's no reason not to test him.

That would just be protecting him from himself. The rest of the team would see right through that.

Dude needs to grow up. He needs to be in great shape.

He is a professional athlete.Respectfully, I think this is naive. The Redskins got exactly what they wanted to get out of this conditioning test. But I never doubted for a second that this would be the case, even before we knew the outcome.

This exercise is a Rorschach test. I can respect an argument that says that DTs in the NFL can never be in good enough condition, but I think it's telling that Kedric Golston and Howard Green were not asked to do 300 yard shuttles until failure. Aren't they important (first team) cogs in this machine? Shouldn't we test their conditioning?

They wouldn't have passed the same standards, btw. I'm okay with that, because they are football nose tackles, and not defensive backs or track athletes.

MTK
07-29-2010, 03:23 PM
Seriously? You're going to blame this on the coach? This guy is getting millions of dollars, didn't show up for off season workouts b/c he had a personal trainer and is asked to do some conditioning drills and fails and it's the coaches ego? Sorry, but Shannahan has every right to run that fat bastard ragged until he proves himself. If Fat Ass was a real man and was working out like he said he was, he would've done everything in his power to pass that test and show everyone that he was indeed in great shape.

I hope Shannahan rides his ass like 10 cent whore with a fist full of fifties!

Yeah I can't understand blaming Shanahan. The days of the inmates running the asylum are over.

12thMan
07-29-2010, 03:24 PM
Looks like Shanny really wants to find out if Haynesworth wants to be a Redskin. Good for him.

GTripp0012
07-29-2010, 03:24 PM
Wait wait wait, how do we know this is a standard test? Do D-linemen normally get this kind of test?

If not, then how do we know if the test accurately reflects his ability(especially if the majority of D-Linemen may not pass this test). Again I dont know one way or another, just a question and not a rush to conclusion.Any DB, WR, RB, QB, LB, or TE could have been reasonably expected to pass this conditioning test if they were in training camp shape. For lineman, you'd probably have a bunch of failures related to both BMI and conditioning level. You'd also have a bunch of lineman who'd pass easy. Casey Rabach, I think, would have done just fine. Trent Williams, probably as well. Dockery? Now we're getting into guys who'd really, really labor on a third 300 yd shuttle.

SmootSmack
07-29-2010, 03:25 PM
I'm sure there was more to it than simply failing a conditioning test. But I don't think Shanahan was going to just let Haynesworth show up without making him pay at least a little bit for the past several weeks.

Not like he was going to just let him walk in as if nothing happened.

At the end of the day though, not a huge deal. So Haynesworth misses maybe one day of practice and is forced to sit and watch his teammates.

Defensewins
07-29-2010, 03:26 PM
It was all about conditioning.

Are you saying they gave him a test that was impossible to pass?

Give me a freakin break. If he was in great condition he would have passed the test. The guy is never in great condition so they might have assumed that he wouldn't pass, but that's no reason not to test him.

That would just be protecting him from himself. The rest of the team would see right through that.

Dude needs to grow up. He needs to be in great shape.

He is a professional athlete.

The 'dude' is a top 5 interior DL in the NFL. There are plenty of really top lineman in the NFL that can not pass a rigorous cardio conditioning tests.
If we all really care about winning, it is time to put all of these ridiculous situations behind us. I realize Haynesworth is a selfish fat bastard and is mostly to blame. But he is a top interior DL in the NFL that combines a rare pass rush and run stopping ability. Continuing to make Haynesworth our public punching bag is not going to help us win.
Having a healthy and positive Haynesworth on our DL this year will help us win.

MTK
07-29-2010, 03:28 PM
I'm sure there was more to it than simply failing a conditioning test. But I don't think Shanahan was going to just let Haynesworth show up without making him pay at least a little bit for the past several weeks.

Not like he was going to just let him walk in as if nothing happened.

At the end of the day though, not a huge deal. So Haynesworth misses maybe one day of practice and is forced to sit and watch his teammates.

A little payback perhaps? Let's run the guy ragged and drag his name through the mud one last time kind of thing? I can see that.

NYCskinfan82
07-29-2010, 03:28 PM
I think one of the points people are missing is MS saw the other DL man working out everyday so he never had to test anyone else like this, so when AH showed up he had to push him harder makes sense to me. New season new FO.

HTTR.

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