O-Line

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jbcjr14
11-16-2004, 09:35 AM
Guys. I am happy that #11 is now in the game as the starter, but if you look at the games (I have watched a few a second time), the offensive line is horrible in pass protection! They are really struggling on the the right side of the line. Most of the corner and safety blitzes are coming off the right side and the pocket continually collapses after about 3 seconds which clearly isn't enough time for WR's to get open. Look at St. Louis, NE, Philly, those QB's have all frickin day to throw the ball!

My point....

For Ramsey to have any chance of success, the offensive line better find a way to protect and open up some throwing lanes. The loss of Jansen is really showing as Ray Brown is just old and couldn't block my fat ass if I was coming off the corner on a Sunday afternoon stroll through the park. The left side appears to be ok and protects well in most cases. Buges better find a way to protect this week and next or Ramsey's season could be short lived.

Redskins_P
11-16-2004, 09:43 AM
I think the O-line across the board is struggling. Both the left and right side. Samuels and Thomas have both been solid, but Dockery and Ol Ray Brown have struggled at times. Dockery missed that guy that came clean up the middle on that blitz.

Ramsey is gonna have to learn to either throw the ball to his "checkdown receiver" or just throw the damn thing outta bounds. Regardless of what he does, he has to be quicker making decisions in the pocket. One thing that Ramsey does have this year in contrast to last is a damn running game which will ease the pressure off of him a little.

Daseal
11-16-2004, 09:45 AM
Thank god we cut Kenyatta Jones and are stuck with Ray Brown as our only option.

We have to use the running game and quick outs/slants/etc to make them pay for blitzing.

SUNRA
11-16-2004, 10:11 AM
I think the O-line across the board is struggling. Both the left and right side. Samuels and Thomas have both been solid, but Dockery and Ol Ray Brown have struggled at times. Dockery missed that guy that came clean up the middle on that blitz.

Ramsey is gonna have to learn to either throw the ball to his "checkdown receiver" or just throw the damn thing outta bounds. Regardless of what he does, he has to be quicker making decisions in the pocket. One thing that Ramsey does have this year in contrast to last is a damn running game which will ease the pressure off of him a little.

If Brunell really wants to help Ramsey then he needs to show him how to read the defense and scramble or step up into the pocket. I just want this offense to center around Portis and not Ramsey. Ramsey has to develop the confidence and consistency to throw the short pass and then go down field. Portis is the key to winning games. No 100yds., no win. You take away his handoffs you take us out of the game.

SUNRA
11-16-2004, 10:17 AM
The reality is the offensive line is not going to get better. Ray Brown and Derrick Dockery have been struggling weekend and weekout. If it's not penalties, it's missing a pass rusher. Ramsey has to adjust to this now and start to use his legs to get out of the line of fire. If not, he will not finish this season with the physical teams we are scheduled to play. A good QB has to adjust to adversity and give himself a chance to throw the ball down field. No better example than McNabb last night with his 14:00 sec. 60 yard play.

skins009
11-16-2004, 10:26 AM
I think ray brown has been absolutely terrible. They need to put in one of the rookies or something, cause is just no good. Plus we need an upgrade at center next year.

FRPLG
11-16-2004, 10:45 AM
I think the left side has been just fine. Dockery is not a pro bowler but he run blocks well adn does a decent job in protection. Center has actually been very good if you study game film(don't we all?). Our left side has been a hit or miss. Thomas is good...very good but OL play is really a team sport broken into the two sides and our play at RT has really brought down the production. Where we are getting beat consistently is on blitzes. Correct me if I am wrong but it is not the job of the OL to pick up blitzing safeties and LBs(at least not usually). This is the job of the protection scheme it self to roll players into the correct position to block these guys. It seems our pass protection to me has been spotyy in two ways. One: we get beat by a gun coming free and unblocked...this is usually unavaoidable but it is up to the QB to recognize this and get us itno a play that will mitigate it. Throw a quick slant or a TE out etc... Two: coverage sacks...how many times have we taken a sack when Brunell held the ball more than three seconds. Three is it in the NFL...you have to get rid of the ball or get your ass moving after that. I think our line has taken heat because Bugel is so outspoken and his theory is that they should give the QB 10 seconds to make a play but that is not reasonable to assume. The coaches have been defelcting criticism of Brunell for weeks and most of it ends up on the OL by default. The guys seem to ahev taken it in stride but I think our line has been good enough for us to win.

Daseal
11-16-2004, 12:50 PM
Dockery is still young, I think with enough time with Buges he'll be great. Either way we need to get 5 guys together, and KEEP THEM TOGETHER for quite some time. Let them gain confidence and trust each other.

SmootSmack
11-16-2004, 01:03 PM
In Ray Brown's defense, and maybe someone can better explain the finer points of this, but I believe this the first time Brown has played RT. He's spent his career as a left guard and just recently move to right guard last season.

So I think he's been playing out of position this whole season

MTK
11-16-2004, 01:05 PM
Dockery takes a lot of heat on this board but I agree with Daseal here, he'll continue to improve under Bugel. Let's give him a little more time. He's still only a 2nd year guy. It's not like he's playing awful.

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