tryfuhl
07-19-2010, 12:58 PM
Im not absolving Zorn of blame totally. I really dont think that it was all his fault totally. It's just his general ineptitude coupled with the team problems as a whole doomed us.
Anyway, i'm so over 2009.
In industry if somebody takes a position that's way above their head part of the problem lies with them. A larger part may lie with whomever hired him, but you need to respect the position that you're willing to accept. Zorn would have a hard time finding an OC job right now which honestly was a stretch with his initial hiring. He may be a fine QB coach if you attribute Charlie Batch and Matt Hasselbeck to him but there was nothing indicating that he was ready for the next step in my opinion.
Longtimefan
07-19-2010, 01:01 PM
I also remember after Gibbs left, ARE said that Gibbs held the team back as well. So anyway, this isn't meant to bash Randle El. Just saying that he seems to have a lot to discuss, but perhaps not much to really say.
Anyhow, what's done is done. Good luck to Zorn in Baltimore, Randle El in Pittsburgh, and Hail to the Redskins!
You know this article appears a little strange to me. I can't remember just where, but recently I read where RE actually praised the Redskin organization and the coaching staff, chalked their lack of a better winning percentage on thing out of their control [like injuries] etc.
I'll say this for RE, he may have fallen short of everyone's expectations, but he never trashed his teammates.
artmonkforhallofamein07
07-19-2010, 01:56 PM
Dan and Vinny were hoping to strike it lucky and pull an inexperienced assistant like Zorn and watch him develop into another Joe Gibbs. The difference is that Joe was brought in by Bobby and Jack. They kinda knew what they were doing.
Very good point. Vinny and Dan, as a team, were gamblers who would basically flip a coin and hope for success.
mredskins
07-19-2010, 02:23 PM
All Zorn did was erase erase Steve Spurrier as the worst coach in Redskin history.
SolidSnake84
07-19-2010, 02:25 PM
All Zorn did was erase erase Steve Spurrier as the worst coach in Redskin history.
I dont think Zorn was THAT bad....come on guys
I'm really done with rehashing the Zorn era, but the guy was pretty damn bad. I still think Spurrier was worse, simply because Spurrier wasn't a NFL guy and didn't want to put in the work, but Zorn was pretty much a joke of a head coach in many ways.
artmonkforhallofamein07
07-19-2010, 03:31 PM
Spurrier was the worst ever, as he was so out of his league it wasn't even funny. The same could be said for Zorn, but at least he put in the work to try and get better. He also was always an NFL guy. Spurrier was a guy who loved golf, not the NFL. :)
artmonkforhallofamein07
07-19-2010, 08:43 PM
Cooley wieghed in as well with the Washington Post.
D.C. Sports Bog - Cooley says Zorn lost the locker room (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/07/cooley_says_zorn_lost_the_lock.html)
tryfuhl
07-19-2010, 09:24 PM
quiet offseason so far for Cooley
any insight to what's behind that?
skinsfan69
07-19-2010, 10:33 PM
we've got a professional NFL head coach so really no need to talk about zorn. it's over and done with.