A few notes on Ramsey:

I wasen't able to access the site for the post game chat, Ramsey defiently showed his inexperience in this offense early on but he was kind of thrown to the wolves, he was very very lucky that the Bengal's defense can't catch, with that said he showed as the game wore on that he began to get better, and that's after 1 1/2 quarter's, I see a lot of Tom Brady in this kid he will only get better, will he have some bump's in the road? Of coarse, but he will become a dangerous QB, we will have to learn to live with the occasional head scratching INT until he really get's acclamated into this offense, he will also find his pass protection a little better when he doesn't have to play from behind, as well Portis will start running more effectivly when team's start to respect Ramsey 1 hand washes the other, our offense is poised to take off but we do have a very difficult task the over the next 4 week's, I bet Ramsey beat's the eagles 1 of those games, I am just very glad we finally made the switch. As I predicted. :thumb:

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he will get us over 20 points against the eagles
something we havent seen for along time

Here is my opinion as to the QB situation with the Skins.

First of all, let me start by saying "I don't like Brunell" and never really have. However, I will say that earlier in the season I thought that Coach Gibbs must have seen something in Brunell that we all didn't and that is why Coach Gibbs stuck with Brunell for so long. Well I am going to change that and say that Coach Gibbs DIDN'T see something in Ramsey. Ramsey's biggest problem is his ability to handle the pass rush. He has great arm strength and his accuracy is average but will improve with time. Don't get me wrong, not all of his problems are his fault. Alot of them have to do with the Offensive line. I would be a bit cautious if I got hit as many times as he did last year. I think that is the main reason why Coach Gibbs stuck with Brunell so long. Coach Gibbs knows that the protection isn't quite there yet and I think he probably felt more comfortable with a veteran QB who can handle the rush a little better. As I remember, quite a few of Brunells interceptions were a result of him being hit as he threw, however he was still blamed and the blame really should have been put on the O line. As I am sure most of you saw, Ramsey went down rather quickly on a few plays where there was a strong rush, sometimes even before he got hit. This showed me just how timid Ramsey is back there during the rush. And I think this relates to last season's beating he took. I also think the strong pass rush affects Ramsey's decision making. I lost count as to how many passes should have been intercepted because of poor judgement when he was being rushed.

All in all, I think Ramsey should start the rest of the season. Why? Well he has to gain his confidence back somehow. I think Coach Gibbs was right by sticking with Brunell for so long. If we don't win another game this season, I really don't care (except for the Dallas Game of course). I would much rather see Ramsey get his confidence back.

Next year we will get Jansen back and we will need to find another good pass protector or two. I honesty think that if Ramsey can get the protection he will become a good QB. But he also needs to get his confidence back.

It's good to give stats to support your point but Ramsey was probably sacked more times than any other first year QB. He has had more passes batted down than any other first year starter also.

Had Ramsey played an entire season in his first first year like Manning that TD to INT ratio would have changed. As of now, Ramsey is not a rookie , yet he will continue to make the same mistakes that led him to the bench this year. He looked horrible in preseason and still has to prove himself this week.

After this week, I'm sure the Ramsey bandwagon will die down, because the only way we win is with Portis and not deep passes from Ramsey. 38 carries for 179 yds.


Whats your deal with Ramsey SUNRA? Come one man give the guy a chance to prove himself. And why are you comparing him to Manning? Manning was the first overall pick!

Sunra, I know you don't like Ramsey, but do you stand by your earlier comments (from previous weeks) that Brunell should be the starting QB? Or have you joined the Ramsey "bandwagon?"

P.S. I'm not trying to be smart ass.

It's not that I don't like Ramsey. I don't like mediocrity. Brunell was clearly brought here because Ramsey wasn't ready. Had he been ready, I would have been the first to support him. But I'm not going to blindly follow this unproven guy into a ditch. I'm saying let's wait and see what he develops into in the next weeks because I don't want the excuse to be well he had only seven games he started in and he needs more time. I guarantee you, if Ramsey does not establish some consistency on avoiding the sack and throwing INT's he will not start next year. Gibbs will ask Brunell to re-negotiate his contract and Drew Brees, John Kitna or Quincy Carter might be auditioning for a QB spot.

So where are you getting your #'s from?

You say it's good to give stats but you go on to say he was "probably" sacked more than any other first year QB which is totaly false, Carr was sacked an NFL record 76 times in his rookie season, thank you.

As for the batted passes I have no idea where you're "probably" getting that number from but I'd be interested to hear your source.

My source is the NFL Network. Solomon Wilcotts and Sharpe mentioned his first year stats on the evening show. Probably is not a definite article. It simply means it is a possibility. Remember Ramsey didn't finish the season.

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]Whats your deal with Ramsey SUNRA? Come one man give the guy a chance to prove himself. And why are you comparing him to Manning? Manning was the first overall pick![/QUOTE

You have to read the thread by Jdlea who first made the comparison between Ramsey and Manning like that's something to brag about. Presently,Manning is the best QB in the league, so why waste time with frivilous comparisons when Ramsey is just getting out of the basement? Some of you guys need to stop counting your eggs before they hatch.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]It's not that I don't like Ramsey. I don't like mediocrity. [QUOTE]


If you don't like mediocrity, then why did you blindly follow Brunell? I'm not trying to bust your balls, but you defended Brunell left and right and nobody really said anything. But then you got guys in here supporting and defending Ramsey and you're always trying to find something negative about him. Let's remember that Ramsey is 25 years old, so of course he's going to make mistakes, of course he's gonna throw some INT's. Give him some time to mature, then judge him.

We all judge Brunell because he's a veteran, and he's a proven player. He's been in the league for over 10 years and unfortunately we got him right when his play was declining. He came in and stunk up the joint. You have to admit that.

Like I said before, I'm not trying to bust your balls. This isn't a personal attack.

yeah,but Carr lasted the whole yr,Ramsey didnt

See some people actually understand the point rather than take offense to the point. Thank you, sir.

See some people actually understand the point rather than take offense to the point. Thank you, sir.


No one is taking offense buddy. Calm down.