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Man, I don't get why some are so uptight whenever something positive is said about the team. Of course it's ultimately going to come down to what happens on the field, but what's wrong with talking about what could possibly happen?
SmootSmack 07-01-2010, 10:34 PM Man, I don't get why some are so uptight whenever something positive is said about the team. Of course it's ultimately going to come down to what happens on the field, but what's wrong with talking about what could possibly happen?
Seriously. I think we could have the best offense, the best defense, the best special teams and win the Super Bowl. Is it likely? Probably not, but who cares? Why not think big and think positive? What good is being a fan if you're not going to get excited?
skinsnut 07-01-2010, 10:55 PM Seriously. I think we could have the best offense, the best defense, the best special teams and win the Super Bowl. Is it likely? Probably not, but who cares? Why not think big and think positive? What good is being a fan if you're not going to get excited?
Ok, ok...maybe it is not ridiculous...but it sure is unlikely.
Rookie LT, injury prone RT...RG to be determined, center is average RG is a bit above average, most have never played together...we have a completely new offense with a new blocking scheme, with a new QB....not to mention a new oline coach...and the vast majority have not played nor coached in the NFC east....on top of this....we had the arguably the worst offensive line in the franchise for 25 years....oh yeah....our oline is the BEST!
take it easy on me....I just thought I'd throw in some valid reasons that our line is in radical transition at this point..is it possible that they will be the best...yes....but highly unlikely. The best olines have been playing together for 3+ years with the same coaching. I'd expect the best result is to achieve a decent to good oline....say the 12-15th best out of 32...that is a MASSIVE improvement from 28th-32nd last year.
So don't call me a debbie downer. I expect solid improvement. I just dont expect miracles.
Defensewins 07-01-2010, 11:37 PM Man, I don't get why some are so uptight whenever something positive is said about the team. Of course it's ultimately going to come down to what happens on the field, but what's wrong with talking about what could possibly happen?
I am not uptight about being positive. Finally, we have a decent FO that is providing real talent and Snyder is not scheduling his own press conferences. It is a Great start! That is positive.
But saying we may have the best line in the division in July after a 4-12 season...that is reverting back to our old ways of Snyerratto days.
Since Snyderraatto took over the team 10 or so years ago, we have been the kings of talk. Kings of of signing the big free agent and trying to create a big media splash. Kings of the press conferences. Talk talk talk.....we were named the Champions of the off season.
Last year (first half of season) we were the laughing stock of the NFL on the field.
We finally have some positive things, why spoil it by saying things like we have the best OL in the division? That is not positive, that is stupid.
Can we once just develop into a great team and not try to convince ourselves and others in the process. Let it happen on its own.
I am not uptight about being positive. Finally, we have a decent FO that is providing real talent and Snyder is not scheduling his own press conferences. It is a Great start! That is positive.
But saying we may have the best line in the division in July after a 4-12 season...that is reverting back to our old ways of Snyerratto days.
Since Snyderraatto took over the team 10 or so years ago, we have been the kings of talk. Kings of of signing the big free agent and trying to create a big media splash. Kings of the press conferences. Talk talk talk.....we were named the Champions of the off season.
Last year (first half of season) we were the laughing stock of the NFL on the field.
We finally have some positive things, why spoil it by saying things like we have the best OL in the division? That is not positive, that is stupid.
Can we once just develop into a great team and not try to convince ourselves and others in the process. Let it happen on its own.
You do realize this was simply a topic that came up on NFL radio. How is talking, which we do a lot of in the off-season, spoiling anything??
tryfuhl 07-02-2010, 01:00 AM Sorry, you can't go from worst to best with the acquisition of one top draft pick and one pro bowler. If you throw in the TE then we aren't bad, but the best? Come on, we sucked last year. The rook has yet to play a down in the NFL so God only knows if he is going to pan out. He most likely will, but not in a way to make our O line go last to first in a span of one season. Brown was the best acquisition via FA in a long time, and yes I am including McNabb in that, but we just plain have no depth. Other than our two newbies who do we have that is really all that great?
2/5.. that's 40%
2 very solid pieces on the line will help a lot.. if you look at some of the best lines not every player is the best at their position.. or even top 5..
1 great player at a line position can change the line and open up opportunities... losing one can ruin it
nobody has a very solid line vs the pass rush in our division other than the giants and most of us have a pretty decent run line so basically it's a 3-way battle with NYG to see who has the best line
tryfuhl 07-02-2010, 01:01 AM This is a ridiculous thread
ridiculous? there's a reason that the word "speculation" even exists
there is reason to believe that roles/positions within the division will change and due to some instances it's not silly to think that we may be at the forefront of benefiting from our additions
This is a ridiculous thread
I agree, who knew there could be so much drama by asking if something COULD happen.
Kindoy 07-02-2010, 05:21 AM our line has the most potential... looks good on paper.
Dirtbag59 07-02-2010, 07:27 AM Best Offensive Lines in the League:
1. Jets - Any line that can protect a rookie QB and help lead a 31 year old running back to 1,400 yards rushing is always a candidate for best in the league.
2. Titans - A big part of Johnson's 2,000 yard season was the unit he had up front. The Titans have the best pair of bookends in the league with Michael Roos and David Stewart.
3. Saints - Best Guard tandem in the league by a mile and so much depth that they could afford to give us Jamamal Brown for what should qualify as nothing more than a tax write off.
4. Ravens - Gaither, Oher, Grubbs, and Birk. Guys who have either been to the pro bowl or are easily capable of making it one day. The quality in this group is scary
5. Vikings - One of the best left sides in the league with Mckinnie and Hutchinson though not as productive as they were a few years ago.
6. Dolphins - Very close to the Titans in terms of best bookends in Long and Carey.
7. Buccaneers - Say what you want about BA's time in Tampa, one area he didn't neglect was the Offensive Line. Had Aaron Sears not run into certain problems this unit would have been ranked higher.
8. Panthers - Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah round out the outside while my favorite Center Ryan Kalil is joined by former tackle Travelle Warton. Duke Robinson is a backup.
9. Browns - Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, and Alex Mack are a great start to this line. Tony Pashos and Floyd Womack do a nice job rounding out the right side.
10. Redskins - If Trent Williams develops into what we think he can be then this unit will shoot straight to the top 3. They also have a lot of young guys coming up on the interior.
Other great lines: 49ers, Giants, Jaguars..
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