What's up with the cops these days?

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NC_Skins
03-21-2014, 12:07 AM
If you would hide behind a cop car door and feel safe you must have been asleep in class or playing with your cell phone. Cop cars don't have anymore structural reinforcement in the body than a car off the dealer lot. Look at the Bonnie and Clyde death car. Cars in the 30's had a lot thicker metal than 21st century ones and bullets went right through the doors. No formal training but I shoot crap all the time right out in the back yard. Next time someone tells you hiding behind a car door is safe tell them to stand behind one while you shoot at it.



A car door is more than just sheet metal. There are rods, levers, and other metal within it. The sheet metal will most likely stop lower powered guns, but certainly not the higher powered ones. That said, those doors will still slow those bullets down, and it'll mean a lot if those officers are wearing bullet proof vests (as they should be). In the end, some protection is better than none.

Giantone
03-21-2014, 04:24 AM
A car door is more than just sheet metal. There are rods, levers, and other metal within it. The sheet metal will most likely stop lower powered guns, but certainly not the higher powered ones. That said, those doors will still slow those bullets down, and it'll mean a lot if those officers are wearing bullet proof vests (as they should be). In the end, some protection is better than none.



Episode 27 - Will it Stop a Bullet (Car Door) - YouTube

Buffalo Bob
03-21-2014, 11:04 AM
Episode 27 - Will it Stop a Bullet (Car Door) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW_8rmR0pVc)

Unlike what most of the anti-gun crowd believe the AK-47 has no more power and usually less (depending on ammo) than your average hunting rifle. So the same type rifles people hunt deer with (30-30, 30-06, etc) will go through that door also. I would be curious what ammo they were using with the 9mm, pretty sure with the right ammo it will also go through that door. I have shot through water heaters (4 pieces of sheet metal plus insulation) motor cycle gas tanks (thicker than car door sheet metal) computer towers (through the sheet metal and side ways through floppys and hard drives) with a .357 and they are basically the same diameter bullet and with stronger loads the 9mm are pretty close to the .357 in velocity tests.

As for hiding behind doors, does anyone remember the law enforcement shootout with Christopher Dorner? That happened in Southern California in 2013 so maybe it wasn't big news here. He was firing from a cabin in the woods and there were more than a dozen cops. The smart cops were hiding behind trees, the second smartest behind fronts of cars with an engine compartment between them and the shooter. Still had a few using car doors and truck beds as shields. Who trained those guys? There were plenty of trees left to hide behind and your average rifle bullet will only go a few inches into a live tree.

Giantone
03-22-2014, 04:14 PM
Florida Police Officer Fatally Shot, Suspects' Bodies Found Nearby - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-police-officer-fatally-shot-suspects-bodies-found-nearby-n59556)

RedskinRat
03-22-2014, 09:40 PM
Helmet Cam Footage Shows Cops Murder a Man for “Illegally Camping” (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/helmet-cam-footage-shows-cops-murder-man-illegally-camping/)

Thugs.

Giantone
03-23-2014, 08:12 AM
Helmet Cam Footage Shows Cops Murder a Man for “Illegally Camping” (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/helmet-cam-footage-shows-cops-murder-man-illegally-camping/)

Thugs.



or suicide by police .

HailGreen28
03-23-2014, 10:07 AM
Helmet Cam Footage Shows Cops Murder a Man for “Illegally Camping” (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/helmet-cam-footage-shows-cops-murder-man-illegally-camping/)

Thugs.The cops shoot a man dead and then one of them yells "Give it up!" :doh:

CRedskinsRule
03-23-2014, 10:44 AM
or suicide by police .

You clearly didn't watch the video.

HailGreen28
03-23-2014, 10:57 AM
RR shows video of man getting fatally shot in the back by police.

or suicide by police .

http://masochistmusing.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/firefly_mal-is-speechless.gif

To other people here, I can understand technically "by the book" the lethal response of shooting the guy when he brandished lethal weapons (knives, assuming that part is true). But even then shooting the guy in the back, as he had turned away from them? There's nowhere for him to go. And I can imagine a homeowner being convicted if he shot an intruder in the back, like that.

Giantone
03-23-2014, 01:14 PM
You clearly didn't watch the video.



yeah I did ,why not just stop and put your hands up ?

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