What's up with the cops these days?

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Agreed, domestic issues are always the most unstable - and that applies at the legal end of it too (Once, I saw a milliion dollar divorce settlement fall apart over who gets the poodle).

probably a good thing, who would know how to split a milliion dollars anyway, sounds fisshy to me

Dallas.Org: El Reno Police - Report on Lona Varner (http://www.scribd.com/doc/33557136/Dallas-Org-El-Reno-Police-Report-on-Lona-Varner)

Here is the police officer's statement on what happened. It still seems like the police could have backed off, and waited for an ambulance to show. If at that time she threatened the EMT then the police could re-assert control over the situation, including use of a taser. I am glad to be out of that field, and away from dealing with domestic incidents. Absolutely the worst and most unstable situations a police officer can get into.

I think you're right. One of the biggest problem in dealing with the elderly is that there is so many people that feel that because of their age they should get away with anything. And they love to use the excuse that "they don't know what they are doing", like they are a toddler or some brain-dead invalid.

don't think about the woman's age, and you have a clear crime, with an assailant, and a likely victim (the grandson, or other officers)

The woman was threatening police with a kitchen knife, and also threatened to stab her grandson

that reads a heck of a lot different than:

the elderly, senile woman, was threatening police with a kitchen knife, and also threatened to stab her grandson.

I'm tired of these old bastards getting to do whatever they want just because of their age. You can't tell me that they dont know it either and attempt to exploit people. The guy that killed my friend like a rabbit in the road would be in jail for murder today if it wasn't for the fact that he was 88 and on oxygen, and they said he was "too old" to stand trial.

As others have pointed out, tasering was the safest way to disable her. You cant risk breaking her frail ass bones if the officer tried to grab or wrest the knife away from her, and a punch in the face to disarm her would likely kill her. The tazer is usually the safest bet.

I understand your anger, i do. But really what could they have done, when she had a knife and was threating to stab her grandson. Would you have just waited for her to stab somebody, and THEN try and calm her down??

the fact was, she was putting people in a life threatening situation, even if it didnt seem like it. If the police did nothing, the same people would be crying that they didnt do anything, after somebody got stabbed....

Nevermind Solidsnake. I only read the first couple posts to this and then responded. I didn't see the Police Take on what happened. I only read what the Grand ma and Grandson said. Yeah, if she had a knife and threatened people including the cops then she deserved to get tased!

I guess I should have read all of the posts before I responded..................and I was going to, but I got interrupted! Somone at my job called me! They needed me to do something RIGHT THEN! So, I just responded with reading only the first couple of posts. Next time, I'll make that butthead wait a little longer! :)

You really can't say the cops these days, they are just upholding the laws we put in place.

Nevermind Solidsnake. I only read the first couple posts to this and then responded. I didn't see the Police Take on what happened. I only read what the Grand ma and Grandson said. Yeah, if she had a knife and threatened people including the cops then she deserved to get tased!

I guess I should have read all of the posts before I responded..................and I was going to, but I got interrupted! Somone at my job called me! They needed me to do something RIGHT THEN! So, I just responded with reading only the first couple of posts. Next time, I'll make that butthead wait a little longer! :)

Wait, you aren't the guy at the phone company that I just yelled at are you??? ;)

In a free society the cops should never have the right to search you without cause, and then arrest you for refusing. This is grounds for a revolution.

It took me 5 minutes to find the link. Rather than question something that seemed outrageous on its face, you just bought the agenda you wanted to believe and then accuse someone else of not having their facts straight.



Way to avoid critical thinking. Welcome to the sheep nation.

Ahh you know me all so well.

Look, had this been something that I was deeply concerned with (the particular situation) yeah I would've taken the time to look more into the situation. I took the irresponsible reporting at face value and rescinded my previous statement for the most part. This is somewhere that I come for fun and to shoot the shit, not debate club. I don't know if you have your differences with me because of some of the other political/society threads or what but I don't take it that seriously.

^^ I guess the thing that bothered me was the criticism of someone else for failing to get their facts straight when you had not taken the time to do so yourself.

^^ I guess the thing that bothered me was the criticism of someone else for failing to get their facts straight when you had not taken the time to do so yourself.

Definitely not the first time I've foot-in-mouth'd ;)

In a free society the cops should never have the right to search you without cause, and then arrest you for refusing. This is grounds for a revolution.

like Professor Gates?