Condoms For First Graders?

I'm the problem? :(

I'm playing along now.

who is "their"?

and why is trying to start a discussion from a point of consensus considered endless blab?

as for the discussion, good luck joe.

Seriously. Might as well resurrect the "Never Ending Thread" and just merge it with this, because it will go on forever.

Personally I think the notion of putting condoms in the hands of 6 year olds is waaaay beyond retarded. But every liberal on this site will just shake their head at anything else I have to say on the matter.

I'm somewhere in between Matty and Buster on this issue. I'll leave it at that. Delving into it any further will be wasted energy. I have and will continue to enjoy reading this thread though.

Happy Friday everyone. :)

I'm the problem? :(

I'm playing along now.

Damn and I was trying so hard to be the problem!

I am going to try something new and different for our Warpath discussions: What can we agree on? Really. Start out broad, if we can narrow it down, great. If we have to broaden, it, fine. But let’s work on finding a statement, relevant to this discussion, that we can all agree on. Is there one?

Let me throw something out there:
1. “Six year olds should not be engaging in intimate sexual activity of any kind.” – Nice, broad terms. Can you reasonably define the terms of this statement for yourself so that you can agree with it. I am not concerned with what six year olds are actually doing – This is a statement concerning the standards we uniformly hold as a society regardless of whether individuals within the society occasionally don’t comply with the standard.

Here’s a trickier one:
2. “The sexual activity of children is a public health issue that affects the entire society, not just the individuals involved or their immediate families.” Again, can you reasonably define the terms of this statement in such a way as to agree with it? If not, how would you change it to make it something we could all agree on?

I would hope we can come to an agreement on No.1. I think No.2 will be trickier.

In terms of "everyone", let make this a real challenge. I challenge Matty, saden, buster, bud38, TTE, SS84, firstdown and GhettoDog, to find a statement that they can all agree on as to No.1 and No.2.

I dare you gentlemen. I believe each of you intelligent enough to understand the concept. I am not, however, so sure that each of you is willing to see what is "right" about someone else's point of view as to allow for finding a commonality. Quite frankly, I expect you to fail.

Shock me. I double dog dare you.

Parents want choice in what schools can teach their kids. I would support sending kids home with a letter telling parents what is going on in school and asking them whether they want their kids to attend informational session on sex education where condom use will be discussed and how to get a hold them for free at the school health clinic.

Parents want choice in what schools can teach their kids. I would support sending kids home with a letter telling parents what is going on in school and asking them whether they want their kids to attend informational session on sex education where condom use will be discussed and how to get a hold them for free at the school health clinic.

That seems reasonable, but the Mass schools have circumvented the parents.

Seriously. Might as well resurrect the "Never Ending Thread" and just merge it with this, because it will go on forever.

Personally I think the notion of putting condoms in the hands of 6 year olds is waaaay beyond retarded. But every liberal on this site will just shake their head at anything else I have to say on the matter.

I'm somewhere in between Matty and Buster on this issue. I'll leave it at that. Delving into it any further will be wasted energy. I have and will continue to enjoy reading this thread though.

Happy Friday everyone. :)

The idea of a 6 year old with a condom is definitely way beyond retarded, but then again so is the idea of a 6 year old having sex in the first place.

I'm definitely not saying the answer is to hand out condoms like candy, but I also don't think the answer is to think telling kids "no" is going to stop them.

I'm more towards the middle of the argument than I may have let on. Either way, I just don't see an easy answer here.

I actually don't have a problem with their policy:

...which requires students to request the condoms from the school nurse, who will also provide counseling and information on birth control, including abstinence. The nurse can also deny condoms to students for many reasons, including age.


But I do agree the parents should be notified and brought into the discussion as well.

Sometimes I feel like I've crossed over into the twilight zone. I'm glad my grandfather didn't long enough to see this. He would've been so ashamed. :doh: To think we're actually talking about whether it's right or wrong to give children condoms. WTF? I'm out.

The idea of a 6 year old with a condom is definitely way beyond retarded, but then again so is the idea of a 6 year old having sex in the first place.

I'm definitely not saying the answer is to hand out condoms like candy, but I also don't think the answer is to think telling kids "no" is going to stop them.

I'm more towards the middle of the argument than I may have let on. Either way, I just don't see an easy answer here.


There is no easy answer each child is a case by case basis. I will teach in my home about sex to my child and when the school does it to him it should be a refresher not a surprise. Sadly though many parents don't teach their children about sex and they learn either through experiment, pornography or from word of mouth, this is when schools need to step in at the correct age.

For the record I don't believe a six year old should have a condom but he/ she should know the correct terms for their genital and also understand how babies are made on a high level, not that they are flown in from a big bird.

I know I am getting sucked in but is a boring Friday afternoon at the office.

I don't think encouraging is the right word...the school is there to interfere alright, to your benefit not detriment. Intent of the school was to give to all students...it's fine.

I don't know how we went from condoms to guns...maybe you were thinking "how I would feel about the school giving out guns to kids?"
I think having adults < educators > giving anything to minors , especially under the age of 16 is asking for trouble . I will try and give a good example , if I as a parent were trying to keep my 6-12 year old away for the tempation/s to drink , have sex , fight , smoke , ect . My job would be much harder if the school were to make condoms , cig's , beer available . Maybe the school is not encouraging kids to have sex , however kids even up to 17 years of age will make bad choices , and giving them a reason to feel "protected "might drive them into a bad choice . I do not have kids , but I think we should leave kids under 12-13 alone < as far as the gov't / schools > , that is the parents responsibility as far as what age to have that type of discussion and what punishment might be handed out if they make the wrong choice . My point about the gun , was if the school is protecting a child by giving them condoms , then a kid who was getting beat up every day might need protection also , and I doubt any parent would be happy if the school said " you should be happy we are handing out guns , knives ect. to the weak kids ... its for their protection" . I know the comparison is a reach , just saying that IMO both would go to far , as the condoms were being given to six yr olds , 3 yrs removed from being a baby .