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12thMan 06-23-2010, 02:31 PM General McChrystal was basically granted carte blanche across the board by the Administration regarding AfPak policy, so much that President Obama sided with McChrystal on Afghan policy over Joe Biden and General Eikenberry. Also, McChrystal enjoyed a very cozy relationship with the Afghan government and President Karzai. So there's no way in hell he saw the writing on the wall and chose this as his exit. He was at the apex of a very distinguished military career.
It was a combination of bad judgement and believing his own press that was his undoing.
firstdown 06-23-2010, 02:48 PM Isn't he the one they said was a liar? Hmmm I guess Bozo the clown was unavailable?
Bozo is in the White House.
Bozo is in the White House.
W is back for a visit?
tryfuhl 06-23-2010, 02:53 PM W is back for a visit?
http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/wp-content/themes/stormy%20liberty/build/bushsmirk.jpg
Trample the Elderly 06-23-2010, 02:56 PM Dude WTF!? Take that shit down. I've been trying to forget!
CRedskinsRule 06-23-2010, 05:01 PM BreakingNews
June becomes deadliest month of Afghan war for NATO forces with 76 deaths, 46 of them American, according to AP count June deadliest month of Afghan war for NATO - Afghanistan- msnbc.com (http://bit.ly/93JS5J) 5 minutes ago via breakingnews.com
Just repeating, when soldiers were dying in Iraq under Bush, the media screamed about each one, still in Afghanistan we barely hear a peep, even as a general is scapegoated.
All in all, I'll never understand those that don't see the double standard and hypocrisy of mainstream media, but I know this point won't open any eyes. Maybe the worst part of all the political banter that goes on on this site is the fact that in the end we all vent, but no one ever, or extremely rarely, changes their opinion. The death penalty debate was awesome dialogue, but did anybody change their mind. The Obama care thread, amazing research, discussion, etc, but I doubt anyone changed their point of view.
saden1 06-23-2010, 05:14 PM BreakingNews
June becomes deadliest month of Afghan war for NATO forces with 76 deaths, 46 of them American, according to AP count June deadliest month of Afghan war for NATO - Afghanistan- msnbc.com (http://bit.ly/93JS5J) 5 minutes ago via breakingnews.com
Just repeating, when soldiers were dying in Iraq under Bush, the media screamed about each one, still in Afghanistan we barely hear a peep, even as a general is scapegoated.
All in all, I'll never understand those that don't see the double standard and hypocrisy of mainstream media, but I know this point won't open any eyes. Maybe the worst part of all the political banter that goes on on this site is the fact that in the end we all vent, but no one ever, or extremely rarely, changes their opinion. The death penalty debate was awesome dialogue, but did anybody change their mind. The Obama care thread, amazing research, discussion, etc, but I doubt anyone changed their point of view.
Really?
You should watch MSNBC more often, they rip on Obama all the time about the wars.
firstdown 06-23-2010, 05:17 PM Really?
You should watch MSNBC more often, they rip on Obama all the time about the wars.
Just like FOX ripped Bush over spending.
joethiesmanfan 06-23-2010, 06:10 PM Really?
You should watch MSNBC more often, they rip on Obama all the time about the wars.
scapegoated? that's his freaking stupid plan
Slingin Sammy 33 06-23-2010, 10:27 PM BreakingNews
June becomes deadliest month of Afghan war for NATO forces with 76 deaths, 46 of them American, according to AP count June deadliest month of Afghan war for NATO - Afghanistan- msnbc.com (http://bit.ly/93JS5J) 5 minutes ago via breakingnews.com Here's a good portion of the reason why.
washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/18/AR2010061803760.html)
News Analysis - Rules for War Vex the Warriors - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/world/asia/23troops.html?pagewanted=2)
This BS counterinsurgency strategy isn't working, it's doing nothing but putting our troops at greater risk. We either fight this as a war or bring the troops home now. No way we put our troops on the ground at risk with this stupid strategy (it's been a Bush & Obama strategy). We either crush the enemy and deal with collateral damage, without putting our troops at greater risk, or bring them home now. Don't wait until July 2011.
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