Report: Redskins Have Traded for Jammal Brown

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firstdown
06-21-2010, 05:35 PM
I agree. I'm still a sucker for big blockbuster signings -- but isn't this the same as the last 10 years? We're either spending too much or sending away draft picks for players..

And every year we've done this, everyone says "It's different this time."

- Albert Haynesworth (2009) - nuff said. most ppl loved this.
- Jason Taylor (2008) - last minute decision, most accepted this. he sucked.
- Brandon Lloyd/Archuleta (2006) - Gibbs did it, most accepted it. they sucked.
- Bruce Smith, Deion, Trotter, etc, etc, etc

I'm a Redskins homer, so (again) I'll say that this is "different" and I'm hopeful (perhaps we're giving up lower draft picks for good "value"). But I think we all need to realize, this is the very similar to what we've been doing for years. If the moves work, then Shanahan's a genius. If not, we'll look back and shake our heads.

When It Comes to Free Agency, Redskins Usually Aggressive (http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Free_Agency__Redskins_Usually_Aggressive_5464.jsp)

The past free agents we have signed has never really bothered me it what we gave up and gave them that was always my issue. Brandon Lloyd is the perfect example. He had one year left on his deal and we could have waited and signed him for about the same deal even if he had a good season. Bruce Smith while on the down side provided some play but his deal was too big for what he had left in the tank. These also don't look like such a bust if you don't give up the bus with each deal.

12thMan
06-21-2010, 05:52 PM
What's funny about this move is that I doubt Vinny would have been savvy enough to sign Brown without nearly giving away the farm.

This deal is good for us in that if the Redskins, and specifically Donovan McNabb performs well (I think it's combo of basically a Pro-Bowl year by McNabb and the Skins go something like 9-7), then the Saints and Eagles swap picks and are compensated accordingly.

rbanerjee23
06-21-2010, 06:15 PM
We've been making some big moves this offseason but it just feels different b/c after so many years of Vinny bringing in vastly overrated talent for way too much (picks + money), we've made some really quality moves w/o coming close to betting the farm.

I mean Allen and Shanahan brought in a top 15 OT for a 3rd/4th round pick. That's got to look good compared to Vinny who was thinking of giving up 2 1st round picks for Ochocinco.

12thMan
06-21-2010, 06:25 PM
We've been making some big moves this offseason but it just feels different b/c after so many years of Vinny bringing in vastly overrated talent for way too much (picks + money), we've made some really quality moves w/o coming close to betting the farm.

I mean Allen and Shanahan brought in a top 15 OT for a 3rd/4th round pick. That's got to look good compared to Vinny who was thinking of giving up 2 1st round picks for Ochocinco.

As someone pointed out, I wouldn't be the least surprised if Brown turned in a Pro-Bowl year. Not saying he will, but if healthy he's certainly capable.

Longtimefan
06-21-2010, 06:30 PM
What's funny about this move is that I doubt Vinny would have been savvy enough to sign Brown without nearly giving away the farm.

This deal is good for us in that if the Redskins, and specifically Donovan McNabb performs well (I think it's combo of basically a Pro-Bowl year by McNabb and the Skins go something like 9-7), then the Saints and Eagles swap picks and are compensated accordingly.

keeping up with future dp's is going to be a daunting task!

artmonkforhallofamein07
06-21-2010, 06:32 PM
^^ Agree with every one 100% on this. We are getting good value for not alot of risk. The risk in drafting 1st 2nd and 3rd round guys is about 50% become players in the NFL. So far we have a Probowl Tackle and Probowl QB for a 2, 3, and 4.


Again if Vinny had made these moves we are looking at 2 1sts or 2nds and at leat 3,4.

Much improved by our FO.

Apparently this is how Bruce Allen works. He is very active in the couple of months leading up to training camp and as teams make camp cuts. This is how he does things. He takes a little risk on injury prone guys but doesn't give up the farm to get it done. This is all per Pat Kerwin on Moving the Chains on Sirius NFL radio today.

WE ARE IN GOOD HANDS WITH BA AND MS!! SO AWESOME!!

They also spoke about our tranistion into the 3-4 basically stating that we have a good roster to make the switch and we should be able to get it done quickly. Also made mention to the fact that it will look like a 4-3 alot. SO QUIT YOUR DAMN BITCHING AH AND GET TO REDSKINS PARK AND SEE HOW THIS THING WILL GET DONE.

Kindoy
06-21-2010, 11:54 PM
a statement Brown made, from matt mosley's blog on espn... don't know if it has been posted yet, but i love his attitude. taking the anti-albert approach.

"I just think coming here, playing for Coach [Mike] Shanahan -- I watched him in Denver -- I like the scheme of offense that he runs. The zones, things like that," Brown told the Post on Saturday. "I'm gonna come in; they want me to play right tackle.I still think I'm a left tackle, but I'm going to do what they want me to do. I know they got my college teammate Trent [Williams] on the left side. We'll see how that all plays out. But I'm going to play wherever they want me to play. I'm just excited to be here and to be a part of a first-class program."

hopefully we can move Capers back to tight end now!?

CultBrennan59
06-22-2010, 01:04 AM
RT's don't get voted to the Pro Bowl.

John Stinchcomb did this past year.

JoeRedskin
06-22-2010, 04:36 AM
a statement Brown made, from matt mosley's blog on espn... don't know if it has been posted yet, but i love his attitude. taking the anti-albert approach.

"I just think coming here, playing for Coach [Mike] Shanahan -- I watched him in Denver -- I like the scheme of offense that he runs. The zones, things like that," Brown told the Post on Saturday. "I'm gonna come in; they want me to play right tackle.I still think I'm a left tackle, but I'm going to do what they want me to do. I know they got my college teammate Trent [Williams] on the left side. We'll see how that all plays out. But I'm going to play wherever they want me to play. I'm just excited to be here and to be a part of a first-class program."

hopefully we can move Capers back to tight end now!?

Why would we want to move our developmental tackle to a position we are already stacked in?

Rather - Hopefully, this gives time for Capers to develop into a solid replacement for J. Brown at RT.

bigant
06-22-2010, 09:23 AM
awesome move for what we gave up for him pro bowl tackle for a 4th rd pick who is only 29 wow outstanding.......................

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