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Corners are becoming a dime a dozen. If you watch the NFL draft you know what I mean. 33 Corners were selected this year, most of any position. In fact to compare there were 38 Offensive lineman selected, thats guards, tackles, an centers combined. And that still pales in comparison to the 52 Defensive Backs selected.
Also last year 36 Corners were selected, most among all positions. 2008 - 30 Corners - 2nd highest behind Recievers at 35. 2007 - 30 Corners selected - 3rd highest position behind LB and Reciever. That makes 129 Corners selected since 2007. Most of any position.
Personally I don't get teams infatuation with Corners. I personally feel that a great safety does more for your team then an elite corner. Not to mention I would much rather prefer a strong defensive front that can dominate the line of scrimmage then a bunch of corners that have to cover for 5 or 6 seconds on every play.
I personally like the Bill Belicheck way of doing things. Build your team around guys who play closest to the line of scrimmage. Then worry about the secondary and receivers. Those premadonnas can wait awhile.
Though as a disclaimer I think part of my disdain comes from the selection of Los, Tryon, and Barnes. Tryon and Barnes because we needed lineman and Los because while he did end up being a quality player he still resulted in us passing on both Ware and Merriman, though these days I'm not to sad about passing up on Merriman. It remains to be seen if 56 owes a lot of his success to PED's.
Kinda simple when you think about it. It's a passing league now. Teams want/need at least 3 starting quality corners in order to compete with teams that are stacked 3-4 deep at WR.
There are different ways to build a D, but at the end of the day you still need guys that can cover regardless of your front 7.
Giantone 06-15-2010, 09:46 AM Mattyk, thing is it's your front 7 that makes your DB's.(IMO)Without a good front 7 those DB's will be going crazy(like the Giants last year) ,yeah they need to be good and I'm don't want to take away anything but when a DB doesn't have to worry about the run becuase he knows his guys up front can do it then he only needs to concentrate on the reciever.
Yeah I get that, you still need quality guys in the secondary though. A great front 7 doesn't allow you to get away with garbage on the back end.
Monkeydad 06-15-2010, 01:47 PM Revis is demanding to be paid as the top-earning CB...after playing ONE season and being tied for 5th in interceptions?
Play out the contract you signed and earn your money, kid.
While a rookie pay scale is necessary, we also need to keep these greedy sophomores from demanding immediate pay raises after 16 games. Sure, total busts won't get rewarded with a pay scale, but I think a player should have to prove himself beyond one season to get top money in most cases.
So far, Revis is not proving to be worth paying with his selfishness in year #2.
As for Mankins...he has more of a case. He's a quality o-lineman and is probably worth more than $1.54 million that the Pats could be cutting his salary to. Tom Brady has stayed pretty clean over the years and Mankins is part of the reason why. (refs and the Commish help too)
Also, Bellichick and the New England organization has gained a reputation for not treating their own with a lot of respect over the years...from the "practice when you're injured" incidents to some shady deals being made (Cassell).
SmootSmack 06-15-2010, 02:30 PM I'm not going to hate on Revis for wanting more money. He's had 3 great year, each year getting better (the interceptions are a bad measure of his talent because usually teams don't even throw in his direction). Yeah he signed a contract but just as easily as the Jets could drop him he can ask for more money.
If anything I'll hate on him showing up to half-ass the OTAs. If you're going to be there, be fully committed. Otherwise just sit at home and let your agent do his thing.
skinsfan69 06-15-2010, 04:15 PM Revis is demanding to be paid as the top-earning CB...after playing ONE season and being tied for 5th in interceptions?
Play out the contract you signed and earn your money, kid.
While a rookie pay scale is necessary, we also need to keep these greedy sophomores from demanding immediate pay raises after 16 games. Sure, total busts won't get rewarded with a pay scale, but I think a player should have to prove himself beyond one season to get top money in most cases.
So far, Revis is not proving to be worth paying with his selfishness in year #2.
As for Mankins...he has more of a case. He's a quality o-lineman and is probably worth more than $1.54 million that the Pats could be cutting his salary to. Tom Brady has stayed pretty clean over the years and Mankins is part of the reason why. (refs and the Commish help too)
Also, Bellichick and the New England organization has gained a reputation for not treating their own with a lot of respect over the years...from the "practice when you're injured" incidents to some shady deals being made (Cassell).
In all fairness Revis has outplayed that contract and deserves a rasie cause front offices cut guys and all time. I agree with him getting a raise it's just his antics that really make him look like a tool. Just shut up and quit talking the media about it.
Regarding Mankins it's really a joke that a stalwart on a pretty damn good line is making 1.54 million. On the open market he'd command a lot more than that and if we had the draft picks I'd try and trade for him. He'd instantly solidify the RG position. I just don't understand organizations not wanting to reward guys that have paid their dues. I think Brady might see the writing on the wall and with his ties to the west coast I could see him wanting out. Brady would look real good in a SF uniform.
ethat001 06-15-2010, 07:34 PM "PAY the man"! (aka. Deion @ NFL Network)
On a side note, I wish we had drafted Revis instead of Landry.. Hindsight is always 20/20..
GTripp0012 06-15-2010, 08:04 PM "PAY the man"! (aka. Deion @ NFL Network)
On a side note, I wish we had drafted Revis instead of Landry.. Hindsight is always 20/20..Yeah, I can't imagine that we were too far from actually making that decision in 2007. I'm thinking the team had Revis higher on their board that year than Amobi Okoye (who I wanted, and still would rather have had), and decided quite late that Landry was going to be everything the scouting report suggested.
He still might be. It's just that his first three years have been, at best, a mixed bag, while Revis is one of the three best defensive players in football.
saden1 06-15-2010, 08:27 PM Revis needs to get paid. If I were him I'd stay professional and simply tell the JETs pay me decent now and you won't have to pay me even more later.
Monkeydad 06-16-2010, 03:18 PM More big name holdouts, could be out until week 10 for Chargers:
NFL Videos: Bolts holding out (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d818acfd8/Bolts-holding-out)
This is getting ridiculous.
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