SKINSnCANES
11-14-2004, 01:35 PM
we cant afford another qb so lets hope that brunell steps up, or Ramsey is learning a ton by sitting out this year.
Should We Go After Another QB in OffseasonSKINSnCANES 11-14-2004, 01:35 PM we cant afford another qb so lets hope that brunell steps up, or Ramsey is learning a ton by sitting out this year. joecrisp 11-14-2004, 03:50 PM I think that Joe believed his statement to be true when he made it. But from the sounds of it, his opinion of Ramsey may have changed for the worse over the course of camp and the season so far. There were reports of him thinking Ramsey was too cocky and not practising well. I love Joe, but I don't believe that he is going to keep his word to Patrick if he doesn't believe that he gives the Redskins their best chance to win. I posted this quote in a similar thread (what's the official count on Brunell vs. Ramsey threads up to now?:cheeky-sm ), but I think it bears repeating here: The Washington Post, November 6th (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29165-2004Nov5.html) Ramsey has impressed the coaches by increasing his knowledge of the system despite his limited role, Gibbs said, and he has looked good running the opposition's plays with the scout team. "Is it ideal for him? No," Gibbs said of Ramsey. "Would you like to get him some reps in practice, yeah. But if you do that, I've found, you're taking a 10 percent thing and trying to project and you're going to take away [snaps] in practice every week, and you really can't do that to the starter. He's been great as far as attitude and everything, he's been terrific, and those guys are always one play away. It's a tough thing to go through, but that's part of the quarterback position." Ramsey is not the starter because he didn't outplay Brunell in the preseason games, and Gibbs named Brunell the regular season starter because of Gibbs's higher comfort level with more experienced quarterbacks. Since Brunell was named the starter, Ramsey has had scant opportunity to prove himself on the field (outside of the two quarters against New York, when he came in to relieve an injured Brunell and overcome a 13-point deficit, and struggled-- which undoubtedly had at least a little to do with his lack of practice reps leading up to the game), and that is why Gibbs is reluctant to play Ramsey-- he has a known on-the-field quantity in Brunell, even if that quantity is not impressive. Otherwise, Gibbs has given every indication that Ramsey is doing everything he needs to do in the classroom, on the sidelines, and with the limited opportunities he has in practice. Although I disagree with Gibbs's decision to continue starting Brunell, I have every confidence that his reluctance to play Ramsey is motivated by a desire to set up Ramsey for future success with this team, rather than an indication that his future lies elsewhere. Gibbs will not play Ramsey this season unless Brunell is injured (no, not even if the Redskins are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention-- Gibbs doesn't believe in that "let's get ready for next year" philosophy), and he will wait until next year's minicamps and training camp practices-- where Ramsey will get more practice reps-- to see if Ramsey is ready to apply on the field all that he has learned in the classroom, and is clearly the best choice at quarterback to win games for the Redskins next season. Until that time, Gibbs will only give this team and its fans two options-- Brunell or bust. BleedBurgundy 11-14-2004, 04:05 PM I think that Brees will be a successful NFL quarterback. He did a great job at Purdue. He was never a blue chip prospect and I don't see him lighting up teams ala Peyton but I do believe he can be a solid, dependable qb on a good team. That said, I think we're good with Ramsey, always have. If Brees has shown anything, it's that a struggling qb, given time, can begin to flourish once he's comfortable in a system. (and Marty Ball isn't exactly the greatest show on turf) I believe we should soon give PR the keys and see what he does with them. Practice is great and a fundamental part of the game. BUT there are such things as gamers and until we put PR out there with the first team, with the bullets flying, so to speak, for a whole game with the first team offense and not starting out 2 scores down and his back against the wall like in the Giants game- we won't REALLY know anything. (Now that's a run-on sentence kids, in case you were wondering.) VTSkins897 11-14-2004, 07:39 PM the problem with the 'skins over the past few years, which oddly enough coincide with snyder's tenure is that there is no team chemistry. we've proved each and every year that you can't just plop the all-madden team in (or in brunell's case the one from '98) and expect to win the super bowl. do what the eagles and pats do and use what you got. obviously some improvements are necessary but i think ramsey is a gamer and can definitely carry this team. so let's use our crew! joecrisp 11-14-2004, 07:55 PM Gibbs will not play Ramsey this season unless Brunell is injured (no, not even if the Redskins are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention-- Gibbs doesn't believe in that "let's get ready for next year" philosophy), and he will wait until next year's minicamps and training camp practices-- where Ramsey will get more practice reps-- to see if Ramsey is ready to apply on the field all that he has learned in the classroom, and is clearly the best choice at quarterback to win games for the Redskins next season. Until that time, Gibbs will only give this team and its fans two options-- Brunell or bust.Alright, since no one else has jumped on this golden opportunity to stuff my foot firmly in my mouth, I'll do it for myself. Just when I thought I had Gibbs figured out, he goes and puts Ramsey in the game! Here's hoping he continues to prove me wrong, and lets Ramsey practice as the starter for at least this week. SkinsRock 11-15-2004, 03:08 PM No new QB in the off-season....unless it's a mid to late round draft pick "project" to develop to be Ramsey's back-up in 2-3 years. joecrisp 11-15-2004, 03:29 PM No new QB in the off-season....unless it's a mid to late round draft pick "project" to develop to be Ramsey's back-up in 2-3 years. I agree. Unless Ramsey is so bad that Gibbs has to go to Hasselbeck this season, I can't foresee him looking to throw more money at another veteran quarterback this offseason. He will do the right thing and give Ramsey another offseason to develop in the system. I wouldn't be surprised if he took a quarterback in the mid-rounds next spring to groom as Ramsey's backup and keep on the practice squad until he can compete with Hasselbeck/Brunell for the 2nd and 3rd QB spot. JoeRedskin 11-15-2004, 04:16 PM Bring Back Gibran!!! Redskins_P 11-15-2004, 04:43 PM Bring Back Gibran!!! You've got to be joking.. JoeRedskin 11-15-2004, 04:50 PM You've got to be joking.. Ummmm, yes. :cheeky-sm |
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