Bugel asks Ramsey to show something

This is a live chat on the Washington Post.com........

Richmond, Va.: There are some comments out there from Bugel that Ramsey may be dogging it in practice or "not showing" anything. Have you heard anything like that? And if so, I thought the back-up only ran the scout team offense and had minimal to no snaps with the 1st team offense. How are you expected to thrive in that situation? Thanks.

Jason LaCanfora: I heard rumblings this week that Joe Bugel may have said something like that in a TV interview, but Ramsey real has no chance to show much given how few snaps he takes. He has been nothing but a modal citizen from what we can garner and Gibbs has raved about him. I also asked Gibbs this exact questiuon last Friday, wondering if there are things Patrick can still do in this limited role to show he has a better grasp of the offense than before, and Gibbs said he is in fact doing exactyl that, practicing hard, never complains, asks good questions of the coaches and Brunell, etc.
Now, I also know that Coach Bugel can be a lot more direct and brutally honest than Coach Gibbs tends to be, so there may be something to it, but if they thought Ramsey could give them a better chance to win no matter how bad he looked with the scout team, there is no doubt in my mind he would play. I think this issue is much larger than that and coems down to Brunell being a veteran and played very careful football taking no chances with turnovers. Even if he complets under 10 passes a game, Gibbs knows the D can keep it close and Portis can grind teams down. The fear is Ramsey makes a great play and then throws two big picks; they want consistnecy, even if it is consistently unproductive but does not result in turnovers, it seems.


That may be true but I don't think it's smart, 1st everyone keep's harping on turnover's as if Brunell doesn't turn the ball over, when in fact he has given up 28 point's off of turnover's which directly cost us at least 2 games, which is much worse than anything Ramsey has done, the fact is anyone of us could go out there and not turn the ball over, we won't move the ball either, and that's Brunell in a nut shell, we paid 43 mil. for a QB not to turn the ball over his play does not factor in the equation, it's the bird afraid of walking that never learn's to fly, IMO Brunell is hanging on to his job through lack of effort, in other word's by not moving the ball he minimizes the chances for a turnover so why take a chance? I am sorry but there is a reason the QB is the highest paid position in the NFL he is paid to win, not to not lose, the fact that Brunell is reduced to a QB that is expected just to not lose a game is an indictment in itself on his talent and the confidence of the coach in him as a winner, and defiently not the kind of player you give 43 mil. to.

I say let the bird who's not afraid to walk learn to fly! And that's Ramsey!

He was in a college system scoring more points than this "proven NFL system." If he can score that many in a college system he should be able to excel in the pro system, right?

Not necessarily. If that were the case guys like David Klingler and Andre Ware would be Hall of Fame NFL QBs

A college system in the NFL and he still scored points is what I'm getting at. Everyone want's to belittle Spurriers system, and I admit it had flaws, but at least we got into the endzone.

The thing I dont understand, is if you want Ramsey to show you somthing, then why are there these reports that hes getting little to ZERO snaps in practice. I mean I'm not there, so I dont know for sure. However, if hes not getting the snaps, how do you expect him to show you somthing against the #1 defense in the league, with the scout team??


Really. And don't you think most players would get disillusioned if they're not even given a semblence of a chance, particularly when you keep seeing the QB in front of you stink up the place.

It almost seem that Ramsey is content with being a back up QB.

Hardly the case I think. Ramsey's contract is heavily incentive-laden based on snaps and performance.

I can't remember who said it. It was said as the broadcast was ending I believe. I don't necessarily think that he's scared in the traditional sense, but rather nervous.

It was Bradshaw, so you know you have to take it with a grain of salt.

A college system in the NFL and he still scored points is what I'm getting at. Everyone want's to belittle Spurriers system, and I admit it had flaws, but at least we got into the endzone.

Daseal, I'll give you that...Spurrier's system did score more points than we are currently scoring. But, even though he has this fun-n-gun offense, he was lacking in just about every other area of being the head coach of an NFL team. He seemed more suited as an offensive coordinator than a head coach. He just didn't seem to know how to work with NFL level players. What Gibbs is doing right now is building a team. It takes a while. Yeah, we all want to win now because it has been so long but, if we want our winning ways to last we have to build the team from the ground up.

I, for one, would like to see Ramsey get a start. I really think he can get us three touchdowns a game.

People forget that in the Giants game this year, he did throw 2 touchdown passes but one was dropped by Mr. 50/50. Let's just say that he didn't drop it. I wonder were we would be now.

What I think is funny is that it sounds as if even Bugel knows that the offense is going no where with Brunell in the driver seat. I mean if look at it from Bugel's point of veiw, every week he gets our O-line ready for sunday only to have brunell stink up the place.

I hope we all can agree that Coach Gibbs returned to this team to restore it to greatness. If we truly believe this, then we can trust him and his staff to make sure we have the best chance to turn this thing around. No more bandaid, quick fix approaches. A complex yet productive system and a dedication by rank and file or no-name players who make big plays. Right now, we can point to the defense and look at the difference from last year. There is continuity and dedication to shut every opponents offense down. However, the offense has lost a giant of a player in Jon Jansen and has struggled consistently with pass blocking, penalties and not a lot of depth on the O line to replace Jansen in the same way that Lavar's absence had created. Hopefully, Brunell can finish out the second half of the year with greater passing yards and end this season with a winning record. And Ramsey will hopefully be ready for next year with the system firmly implanted in his psyche and ready to go.

I hope we all can agree that Coach Gibbs returned to this team to restore it to greatness. If we truly believe this, then we can trust him and his staff to make sure we have the best chance to turn this thing around. No more bandaid, quick fix approaches. A complex yet productive system and a dedication by rank and file or no-name players who make big plays. Right now, we can point to the defense and look at the difference from last year. There is continuity and dedication to shut every opponents offense down. However, the offense has lost a giant of a player in Jon Jansen and has struggled consistently with pass blocking, penalties and not a lot of depth on the O line to replace Jansen in the same way that Lavar's absence had created. Hopefully, Brunell can finish out the second half of the year with greater passing yards and end this season with a winning record. And Ramsey will hopefully be ready for next year with the system firmly implanted in his psyche and ready to go.

well put