wolfeskins
11-12-2004, 04:01 PM
great point skinsoo9 , it realy didn't sink in that ramsey , while starting in the nfl , was playing in a college system , not an nfl system. i had'nt realy thought of it that way before.
Bugel asks Ramsey to show somethingwolfeskins 11-12-2004, 04:01 PM great point skinsoo9 , it realy didn't sink in that ramsey , while starting in the nfl , was playing in a college system , not an nfl system. i had'nt realy thought of it that way before. cpayne5 11-12-2004, 04:07 PM Who knows what Bugel is talking about exactly, I guess the message is he wants him to make the most of every opportunity he gets. He must not be doing something right if Bugel is asking him to step up. The last time Bugel called someone out (Portis), he stepped up. Let's hope it happens again. MTK 11-12-2004, 04:14 PM I still don't understand this thing about Ramsey being scared of Gibbs. What the heck does that mean and what basis does someone have to make that statement?? Who said that anyway? cpayne5 11-12-2004, 04:17 PM I can't remember who said it. It was said as the broadcast was ending I believe. I don't necessarily think that he's scared in the traditional sense, but rather nervous. MTK 11-12-2004, 04:21 PM I also agree that Ramsey is benefiting by being on the bench for a while. Back in the day QB's would sit for a good 3-4 seasons before they would play, and typically once they did get their shot they were much more productive than if they were tossed right in to the mix as a rookie. Times have changed, now you have these high priced guys and teams can't afford to let them develop slowly. I wonder how many QB's are 'ruined' so to speak because they are rushed in to playing before they are ready. I see people saying Ramsey isn't learning anything by not playing and I really disagree with that. He's learning the system, the terminology, he gets the mental reps during the game, he sees how Gibbs and Brunell interact and in turn he can get an idea of what will be expected of him. I really think he's going to be a better QB in the long run for having gone through a season like this. He's also learning that jobs aren't handed out, they need to be earned. MTK 11-12-2004, 04:22 PM I can't remember who said it. It was said as the broadcast was ending I believe. I don't necessarily think that he's scared in the traditional sense, but rather nervous. ok that makes more sense GoSkins! 11-12-2004, 04:45 PM I think there are a couple of factors with Ramsey right now. First Gibbs probably still has a bad tast in his mouth from the Giants game. Even a couple of the picks weren't his fault, he def. shouldn't his inexperience. ... I wonder if Gibbs would stick with a guy like Farve? There is a guy who wins games, but definatly does not always play thing safe. He throws INT's but throws the TD's to win the game. I would just like to see if Ramsey can win the game where 14 pt's aren't enough. Not that Ramsey is Farve, but I think that using the current philosphy, Farve would be on the bench watching Brunnel. :stop: Redskins8588 11-12-2004, 04:53 PM I see people saying Ramsey isn't learning anything by not playing and I really disagree with that. He's learning the system, the terminology, he gets the mental reps during the game, he sees how Gibbs and Brunell interact and in turn he can get an idea of what will be expected of him. I really think he's going to be a better QB in the long run for having gone through a season like this. He's also learning that jobs aren't handed out, they need to be earned. I agree with you, I have read an article by Troy Aikman about playing the position of QB and what he said IMO makes sense. He said something along the lines like no matter what team it is just about all the plays in the NFL are the same for every team, but where the difficulty that players have when they move from team to team is that the terminology used for a play will be different for the new team than it was on the previous team. Basicly saying that it is just learning the terminology for that system that is so hard on the players. skinsguy 11-12-2004, 04:55 PM I agree with Matty. I think too many rookies get thrown into the fire much too soon and never have that chance to slowly develop into a more consistant QB. Sure, there are QBs that are able to adjust to the NFL and become top QBs before their time (Leftwich, Rosenwhatshisname from Pitt,Bulger), but I also think having a QB on the bench and getting all the mental stuff down and seeing how the coaches interact is a key to growth as a QB. Sure part of his learning is hands-on, but I don't think Ramsey being back-up this year is a bad thing for him. I'm also curious to know what Bugs meant by his comment of PR. Daseal 11-12-2004, 06:36 PM He was in a college system scoring more points than this "proven NFL system." If he can score that many in a college system he should be able to excel in the pro system, right? Ramsey's contract year is quickly approaching and he may not want to resign with the skins no matter how much money we offer. He's a competitor, he wants to play, and it wouldn't suprise me if he's given up since it seems obvious Gibbs is too stuck in his ways and not giving Ramsey any sort of real chance at starting. |
|
EZ Archive Ads Plugin for vBulletin Copyright 2006 Computer Help Forum