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Oh good christ. They're after him because of what he said about legislation passed over 40 years ago when he was a year old? :doh:
It looks as though he has problems with the idea of government forcing private businesses to accept customers they don't want to accept -- much like the reasons Barry Goldwater was against the law. Not because he was a racist or that he hated blacks. Mainly that it was not an area where the federal government has any constitutional jurisdiction.
From a strictly libertarian point of view -- can anyone articulate what the difference is between being forced to allow a customer into your private business and being forced to allow someone into your home?
At what point does the question of freedom of association come into this?
I'm going to pretend I did not read that.....Big Brother not welcome...must be a racist?
Beemnseven 05-20-2010, 10:28 PM I'm going to pretend I did not read that.....Big Brother not welcome...must be a racist?
Yep, this is one of those touchy areas where someone can offer a genuine, reasoned argument that's completely devoid of any racism whatsover, who lays out a case against certain portions of what happens to be a historically popular piece of legislation that signified the end of one of our darkest points, -- and yet still be labelled a racist.
If you speak up for the property rights, speech rights, or freedom of religion of a hated group or individual, then inevitably you become part of that hated group or individual.
Gotta love the Democratic Party -- playing to the nuanced views of their voters.
tryfuhl 05-20-2010, 10:54 PM She just can't stand to stay out of the spotlight. She didn't even govern a real state.. and didn't even stay her term. Fuck quitters.
saden1 05-21-2010, 02:16 AM Yep, this is one of those touchy areas where someone can offer a genuine, reasoned argument that's completely devoid of any racism whatsover, who lays out a case against certain portions of what happens to be a historically popular piece of legislation that signified the end of one of our darkest points, -- and yet still be labelled a racist.
If you speak up for the property rights, speech rights, or freedom of religion of a hated group or individual, then inevitably you become part of that hated group or individual.
Gotta love the Democratic Party -- playing to the nuanced views of their voters.
Stay on the sideline until you're strong enough and ready to enter a game that requires critical thinking. We wouldn't want you to get a concussions now would we?
p.s. No wonder Libertarians never win any elections...what bunch of silly people.
Beemnseven 05-21-2010, 06:13 AM Stay on the sideline until you're strong enough and ready to enter a game that requires critical thinking. We wouldn't want you to get a concussions now would we?
p.s. No wonder Libertarians never win any elections...what bunch of silly people.
Notice how this post doesn't ever actually offer any critical thinking.
Lame threats, grade school retorts, nothing of substance -- typical from you.
joethiesmanfan 05-21-2010, 08:24 AM Didier was agood TE I remember him.
mredskins 05-21-2010, 08:26 AM Damn you, Buster. i was hoping my homie Firstdown was going to reply first! Oh well...
Yeah, Obama's endorsements are fail big time. I think he needs to chill for a while. Hell, maybe he should endorse a Tea Party candidate!
I could make a case about Coakley and Spector, but I really don't feel like going there. That is until Firstdown weighs in!!
I believe he is on vacation lets all enjoy this time without him. =)
joethiesmanfan 05-21-2010, 08:31 AM WOO HOO after November the small government utopia begins. I am still waitng on the communism that was supposed come after the 08 election, oh well I guess now i can look forward to no taxes utopia!!!!
over the mountain 05-21-2010, 09:59 AM Oh good christ. They're after him because of what he said about legislation passed over 40 years ago when he was a year old? :doh:
It looks as though he has problems with the idea of government forcing private businesses to accept customers they don't want to accept -- much like the reasons Barry Goldwater was against the law. Not because he was a racist or that he hated blacks. Mainly that it was not an area where the federal government has any constitutional jurisdiction.
From a strictly libertarian point of view -- can anyone articulate what the difference is between being forced to allow a customer into your private business and being forced to allow someone into your home?
At what point does the question of freedom of association come into this?
The law was passed in part b/c black people could not find any hotels or motels that would allow them to stay in Florida and the southern states as they traveled down I-95. A florida state case was the case that was brought up to the SC. The SC used the "interstate commerce clause" to stretch the Federal arm into state's rights to regulate their own businesses and laws.
IIRC If florida or any other state wants to allow their hotels and motels to discriminate based upon race, the can but will not recieve any of the federal to state funding for their raodways, etc.
Slingin Sammy 33 05-21-2010, 10:17 AM Yeah after Rand Paul's latetest blunder, I have a feeling that the Tea Party and it's candidates will start to finally come under more scrutiny. But again, that's not what this thread is about:)Paul's blunder was blindly walking into a trap. He should've never been on Maddow. She's been throwing race-bombs at the Tea Party for some time. She's Chris Matthews on steriods....with the same haircut. Nothing good could come from him being on that show. He should've foreseen that coming, and not allowed himself to be cornered like he was.
I don't know the man, but I'd bet a good sum of money he's not a racist. He was trying to stay true to his stance of very limited gov't at the expense of what is practically right (no reasonable person believes businesses should be allowed to discriminate against people based on the color of their skin). There are some cases where Fed intervention is needed, the Civil Rights Act was one of them.
Paul better get used to these type of attacks and playing on the big stage with big boy gloves or he won't make it to DC.
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