Red Dead Redemption

While I understand myself to be well in the minority, I just can't understand what's so great about this game. It may as well be called GTA: Wild West. There's not a single thing new here other than setting. Same clumsy dated combat, same boring errand running, same yammering NPC's. While the graphics are nice, everything else in the game could have been done on PS2 (and was in fact!) Rockstar seems oblivious here to the tremendous advances in games since GTA 3: whether it be the evolved combat of games like Call of Duty and Gears of War, the freedom and player agency of Fallout, or the interactive narrative of Mass Effect. Maybe I'm being a debbie downer here, but when IGN starts giving out 9.7's and people start saying things like one of the best games of all time, I feel the product has to be better than OK. As it stands right now, firing up the box and taking Marston out on the plains feels like as much of a chore as chauffeuring people around Liberty City was.

While I understand myself to be well in the minority, I just can't understand what's so great about this game. It may as well be called GTA: Wild West. There's not a single thing new here other than setting. Same clumsy dated combat, same boring errand running, same yammering NPC's. While the graphics are nice, everything else in the game could have been done on PS2 (and was in fact!) Rockstar seems oblivious here to the tremendous advances in games since GTA 3: whether it be the evolved combat of games like Call of Duty and Gears of War, the freedom and player agency of Fallout, or the interactive narrative of Mass Effect. Maybe I'm being a debbie downer here, but when IGN starts giving out 9.7's and people start saying things like one of the best games of all time, I feel the product has to be better than OK. As it stands right now, firing up the box and taking Marston out on the plains feels like as much of a chore as chauffeuring people around Liberty City was.


I am going to have to agree here a bit with you. Now that I have moved farther into the game it has become a bit repeating with all the tasks. I actually liked Batman better then this game.

Batman started slow then really picked up. RDR started good and has now fizzled for me.

I am thinking either Mario 2 or Alan Wake as my next game.

I hear ya. I wouldn't say it's one of the best games of all-time, one of the best of the year maybe.

And I agree it's basically GTA in the Wild West, it's certainly not a game changer. Still, the change of scenery to the Wild West is what makes it enjoyable for me.

I hear ya. I wouldn't say it's one of the best games of all-time, one of the best of the year maybe.

And I agree it's basically GTA in the Wild West, it's certainly not a game changer. Still, the change of scenery to the Wild West is what makes it enjoyable for me.


There are seriously times where I am like I have to ride all the way over there for a mission. I rather clean the house or go cut the lawn. At least on GTA you had the fun of driving a car to the spot. I know you can use the camp site to speed it along but that seems dumb to me.

There are seriously times where I am like I have to ride all the way over there for a mission. I rather clean the house or go cut the lawn. At least on GTA you had the fun of driving a car to the spot. I know you can use the camp site to speed it along but that seems dumb to me.

For the long trips you can take a stagecoach or train.

Personally I like riding horseback across the map and shooting whatever, whoever, you come across along the way. :)

While I understand myself to be well in the minority, I just can't understand what's so great about this game. It may as well be called GTA: Wild West. There's not a single thing new here other than setting. Same clumsy dated combat, same boring errand running, same yammering NPC's. While the graphics are nice, everything else in the game could have been done on PS2 (and was in fact!) Rockstar seems oblivious here to the tremendous advances in games since GTA 3: whether it be the evolved combat of games like Call of Duty and Gears of War, the freedom and player agency of Fallout, or the interactive narrative of Mass Effect. Maybe I'm being a debbie downer here, but when IGN starts giving out 9.7's and people start saying things like one of the best games of all time, I feel the product has to be better than OK. As it stands right now, firing up the box and taking Marston out on the plains feels like as much of a chore as chauffeuring people around Liberty City was.

I agree, it's pretty much GTA in the Wild West. But for a GTA junkie like me, that's exactly what I want.

I played some of the other games you mentioned and I couldn't really get into them. MW and Gears were good but they're still just 1st person shooters. Gets boring real quick for me. And I couldn't last more than 2 sessions in Fallout. Hated that game, all you do is walk around and talk, talk, talk, talk..... Spend the whole game pusing "A" to answer questions... Did nothing for me.

I feel this has always been the case with GTA - you either love them or hate them.

I agree, it's pretty much GTA in the Wild West. But for a GTA junkie like me, that's exactly what I want.

I played some of the other games you mentioned and I couldn't really get into them. MW and Gears were good but they're still just 1st person shooters. Gets boring real quick for me. And I couldn't last more than 2 sessions in Fallout. Hated that game, all you do is walk around and talk, talk, talk, talk..... Spend the whole game pusing "A" to answer questions... Did nothing for me.

I feel this has always been the case with GTA - you either love them or hate them.

Agreed... I was bored to tears with that game.

Usually I'm a big MW guy but even the latest map pack release hasn't lured me back. I'm lost in Red Dead.

I'm lost in Red Dead.

Just be careful in Tall Trees. I spent 3 hours getting mauled by bears last night lol.

I really like Red Dead, but I feel like you never get anywhere with John Marston's story. You are always learning about other people, solving their problems.

Red Dead is one of the best games of the year, but not one of the best ever. Its not 9.7 good IGN.

On the subject of Fallout3, I loved it.

I will say Red Dead is way better then Fall Out 3 and the other RPG Oblivion. You need to be unemployed and have no family to enjoy those games, they are so damn long.