Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly

Very good points, this isn't a rookie who needs to learn anything new. Hell, Brett Favre (and no, I'm not comparing Favre to Haynesworth, so calm down bitter girlfriends) is the king of not showing up to OTAs, workouts, etc., etc. This happens all the time.

This story hopefully will die down over the next couple of days, unfortunately it may because of the whole Santana-HGH situation.

It does happen all the time. But when you've got a new staff coming off a 4-12 shitty season where you underperformed cause you didn't take responsibility to get yourself in shape then I think it's important to attend off season workouts. Although Farve is a primadonna me first diva, he's got leverage cause he's coming off one of his best seasons and played an important part in almost getting his team to the Super Bowl. Not the case with AH so it would be foolish to compare the two. Hopefully AH is taking his job more serious and doing the things he needs to do to play at a high level.

It does happen all the time. But when you've got a new staff coming off a 4-12 shitty season where you underperformed cause you didn't take responsibility to get yourself in shape then I think it's important to attend off season workouts. Although Farve is a primadonna me first diva, he's got leverage cause he's coming off one of his best seasons and played an important part in almost getting his team to the Super Bowl. Not the case with AH so it would be foolish to compare the two. Hopefully AH is taking his job more serious and doing the things he needs to do to play at a high level.

Um...He attended all of the off season work outs and conditioning last year and he ended up out of shape. So he is trying it his way this time. What is wrong with that?
These are adults not high school players.

It does happen all the time. But when you've got a new staff coming off a 4-12 shitty season where you underperformed cause you didn't take responsibility to get yourself in shape then I think it's important to attend off season workouts. Although Farve is a primadonna me first diva, he's got leverage cause he's coming off one of his best seasons and played an important part in almost getting his team to the Super Bowl. Not the case with AH so it would be foolish to compare the two. Hopefully AH is taking his job more serious and doing the things he needs to do to play at a high level.

Favre has done this all the time, hence the late signing with Minnesota after having an atrocious end of the season with the Jets.

Honestly, the only good thing of having AH at voluntary workouts/OTAs would be to appease the fans that hate him. Personally I care more that he shows up to mandatory camp in shape and ready to go.

Um...He attended all of the off season work outs and conditioning last year and he ended up out of shape. So he is trying it his way this time. What is wrong with that?
These are adults not high school players.

Good observation. Honestly, I'm not even going to bother with a lot of these people, they'll bitch about Haynesworth no matter what. I'm sure if he was in camp, they'd be bitching about something else.

Um...He attended all of the off season work outs and conditioning last year and he ended up out of shape. So he is trying it his way this time. What is wrong with that?
These are adults not high school players.

That's just a cop out excuse, blaming the old staff. Do you hear any of the other playsers using that excuse? I agree, just get in shape and be ready when it counts. But he had better be ready or the fans are going to un leash hell on him.

Favre has done this all the time, hence the late signing with Minnesota after having an atrocious end of the season with the Jets.

Honestly, the only good thing of having AH at voluntary workouts/OTAs would be to appease the fans that hate him. Personally I care more that he shows up to mandatory camp in shape and ready to go.



Good observation. Honestly, I'm not even going to bother with a lot of these people, they'll bitch about Haynesworth no matter what. I'm sure if he was in camp, they'd be bitching about something else.

Farve still gets the benefit cause of his overall body of work. AH just needs to show up ready to go and play to his potential and no one is going to care about the off season crap. No one will bitch if he does that.

That's just a cop out excuse, blaming the old staff. Do you hear any of the other playsers using that excuse? I agree, just get in shape and be ready when it counts. But he had better be ready or the fans are going to un leash hell on him.
Well we've had a lot of players using cop-out excuses then. He's not the only one that held issue with the training staff. So he took it upon himself, before the new regime and staff came in, to see to it that he would receive proper training. One can only wait to see.

That's just a cop out excuse, blaming the old staff. Do you hear any of the other playsers using that excuse? I agree, just get in shape and be ready when it counts. But he had better be ready or the fans are going to un leash hell on him.

I was not blaming the other staff, I was just stating that it did not work for im.

As Ruhskins stated very accurately, the AH haters are going to bitch about him no matter what. Are you a hater? :)
What is being in "shape" for a 340+ DL? Ted Washington who was one of the better interior lineman in my opinion weighed 375+ and could not run 10 yards with out getting winded, but when push comes to shove in the trenches he was a beast. Look at the Vikings Williams's DT's, they are top 5 DT's in the NFL and not what I would call work out guys, more like pizza eaters.

Farve still gets the benefit cause of his overall body of work. AH just needs to show up ready to go and play to his potential and no one is going to care about the off season crap. No one will bitch if he does that.

And if he shows up out of shape, then people can bitch about it. But right now, people are bitching about him because they don't like him, and personally I think this is stupid, childish, and needs to stop period.

What is being in "shape" for a 340+ DL? Ted Washington who was one of the better interior lineman in my opinion weighed 375+ and could not run 10 yards with out getting winded, but when push comes to shove in the trenches he was a beast. Look at the Vikings Williams's DT's, they are top 5 DT's in the NFL and not what I would call work out guys, more like pizza eaters.

I think it'd be to AH's advantage to slim down a bit if he wants to be a 3-4 DE. I think it's a bit funny though that the AH haters want him to play NT, which is a position that has a lot of players who only play a few downs, depending on the situation, and NTs are known to get winded very quickly.

AH will do what he damn well wants, when he damn well feels like it.

And if he shows up out of shape, then people can bitch about it. But right now, people are bitching about him because they don't like him, and personally I think this is stupid, childish, and needs to stop period.



I think it'd be to AH's advantage to slim down a bit if he wants to be a 3-4 DE. I think it's a bit funny though that the AH haters want him to play NT, which is a position that has a lot of players who only play a few downs, depending on the situation, and NTs are known to get winded very quickly.

It has nothing to do with not liking the guy. Let's face it. He's probably not a bad guy to be around in the locker room but he's a bad teammate. Just like farve, he's a great guy to pal around with and everyone loves him but is he a good teammate? No. It's not personal.